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Q: WHY ARE YOU STILL IN CHINA?
YOU ARE SIDING WITH EVIL
Go home, guys! Don't stay longer than a year!
Your mind will end up poisoned and you will eventually lose something of yourself. It's fun to bang a bunch of pretty sluts and make a bunch of easy money, but after you've had your fun, LEAVE!
Read the forums. Every single expat who has been in China long-term has become mentally ill. THey are paranoid, depressed and aggressive, across the board.
By staying there and profiting from their corrupt system you are supporting an evil force in the world. You are supporting animal cruelty and human rights abuse. You are adding (no matter how insignificantly) to a growing evil empire that will eventually either crumble or become something like Nazi Germany.
Chinese people don't see non-Chinese as human beings. They are not your friends. China is more like a cult than a society. I urge you, get out! Go home! Don't waste any more of your energy on that grey, bleak, shithole of a country.
2-3 years should be ok. My hobby is photography and China can be a photographer's paradise. Lots of old architecture and natural scenery to be seen here. The bullet train system is awesome, now it's very easy to take a day, 2-day trips from a good base. The only bad thing about China is that apart from the weather forecast I also have to look at AQI forecast since above 100 particles the scenery just looks damp and dreary which is no good for taking pictures.
why am I still in China (good Question)
The truth as to why Im still in China is I have a family now but also I have been here way to long to go back home.
Im 49 soon and who will hire me back in my own country,I dont have a house and I really dont know what I would do for a job.The cost of living and getting set up is expensive.
I should have gone back home in my 30s.this is year number 16 in China.
I feel that going home now is not an option.
dont get me wrong Im happy I have a family,my wife is Chinese.
its a catch 22 situation
one more thing the longer you stay here and the older you get the harder it is to leave.
Three more contracts for me and I will be finished. My financial goals will be reached by that time. If I want to stay after that I can, but if I want to leave I can with some security for myself. Just three more years and I'm free. When I first came to Asia 12 years ago it was with a plan that one day I would have enough investments to sustain myself and retire in a country with a nice climate. That is done. Now I'm just feathering the nest so, that's what I'm doing here. Thank God because in three years I will be 55.
Maybe the question is why does China really want us here.
My home is here, my wife is here and my friends are here. I have been here five years now and feel more comfortable here than I ever did in the old country.
The industry I work in is here. The bankers sent it here because of the low wages. I took a massive pay cut ( that pleased the bankers), and I still have my job.
Also have a Chinese family now that I support.
Are you suggesting I abandon my family? That would be an evil thing to do.
ironman510:
I couldn't stop laughing after reading this guys post. lol
ScotsAlan:
Ha ha ironman. To be honest, I could get a better paid job back home, but what with the 6 month rule to apply for a spouse visa and all that. Money is not my motivating factor in life. If you have a job you enjoy, fight for it I reckon.
I'M NOT, BUT THANKS FOR ASKING!!¡1!
And thanks for the well-intentioned warning. I stayed over 3 years, so I guess I'm infected.
I didn't bang many hot sluts. The money was also not that easy, for all the hours of degradation you are put through for it. My family makes a lot more sending products to friends and family, now. It's still not easy, but it is rewarding. Doing business is fun as your own boss. I guess I am contaminated by China.
THANKS FOR TYPING ALL CAPS. I'M HARD OF HEARING!!
Hotwater:
So your family have gone into the parallel trading business? Emptying European stores of baby products to ship to China?
coineineagh:
Somebody gets their opinions fed from the news. I don't "empty" any stores. Even the tales of product shortages are proven hoaxes. The only big story was from 2012, when supermarket holdings collectively stopped buying milk formula, and blamed it on Chinese customers. An old widow who helps us, is getting bullied by ignorant Dutch nongs, and I plan to help her next time it happens. If parallel trading were truly a crime, don't you think the government would beon top of it? Chinese money comes into Europe through me, I have a legal registered business, and I pay my taxes. The big sellers are supermarket holdings (yes, the ones involved in smearing Chinese customers - are you beginning to see what is really going on?) - the holdings are allowed to order foodstuffs from distributors, and try to send as much as they can to China, which they can do TAX FREE. All the anti-parallel trading propaganda is just the big fish trying to muscle out the little fish. The CCP recently indtituted a 2-child policy to benefit gov't officials' dwindling progeny, while it raises prices and continually let tainted milk producers go unpunished. Not to mention the 80% C-section rate in hospitals, which is tied to milk formula dependency. You imply I'm doing something bad, but let me be vocal in saying I'm doing a good thing for my family, local store profits, my wife's hometown, my country's GDP, for paying taxes, for small business opportunity, for social fairness in China and europe, you name it. You scoff at me because of the parallel thing, but I'm tired of being an employee. We help people in mywife's village get reliable, untainted food, and they love us for it. The fact that there's so much propaganda against it, is a good indicator that the establisment (supermarket holdings, chinagov) are against it. The establishment always opposes social mobility opportunities. Say what you will about lowly parallel trading; meanwhile I'll continue to live in a coach house from 1870 with a huge garden in the center of town. If there's ANYTHING good you can take home from China, it would be a growing customer base that you cater with trustworthiness and reliability. Or is 'fond memories of banging hot chicks' less objectionable to you? Some people treat Chinese with respect, regardless of cultural differences and propaganda.
ScotsAlan:
I have a Chinese friend in the UK who does parallel trading. I got fed up with her wechat adverts advertising stuff so I ended up blocking her. She even boasted about emptying the shelves of a local pharmacist of skin care products. She expects her British husband to ferry the goods to China in his suitcase on his regular business trips. Her husband told me he complained to her that it is a pointless exercise. He is basically smuggling stuff for her financial gain. So he has refused to carry it. He cant understand why she goes to so much effort to make a few hundred RMB a month when he has a couple of million in the bank. "She is cantonese", I said. "Yup", he sighed. He has no problem bringing stuff for his mates and colleagues. He brings me calpol and lemsip for example. But that's as a friend. Not a business. No money changes hands. My issue with parallel trading is not so much the ethics. Its the air miles and the associated pollution. Stuff such as baby milk should go by ship. In bulk. Not in suitcases on scheduled flights. Also, my Chinese friend in the UK. She was taking photos of product on the shelves in UK shops then advertising it on wechat. She is encouraging people to spend much more than they can afford. Her plan is to make a buck. Not to help people "stuck" in oppressive China.
ScotsAlan:
Sorry about the formatting. My phone wont allow paragraphs.
coineineagh:
i have no good defense against the pollution point, other than that i doubt my activities are on the scale of industrial pollution, and all the unnecessary, inefficient Chinese 'growth' pollution. You can hold a little guy to account forpollution and be absolutely right. But it is not even-handed.
coineineagh:
As for your bimbo story, it is insulting in many ways to suggest we are on the same level, merely because we offer import products. She spams unwanted ads like a headless chicken, and involves her husband as supply line, but can't even get him on board. She gets no respect and few customers, and the message from her partner is clear: go back to fellatio. My wife was contacted by potential customers over 4 years ago, when her Dutch husband first moved to the village. We started to cater to them as a source of extra income, and once it was clear we'd have enough buyers to focus on it full-time, we started the move to Europe. We have no millions in the bank and we don't need people to smuggle stuff in suitcases. We get no help, and have unhelpful family. The MIL is disruptively incompetent, so a former teacher who worked in our school helps out, to my MIL's great objection. My mom is too poor and old to help much, either. We don't do it as hobby or on the side, we work hard and get more orders than wecan handle. Some even have to be turned down. We ship it by the pallet, *legally*. Sometimes in direct packages, if buyers *really* want assurance that it's directly from us. We sell trust, not baby products. Nobody complains that my wife spams too many offers, either. Everything she posts gets around 300 views after a day, be it baby pics or discount offers. Even doctors in my wife's hometown are starting to reccommend her products for their safety, when kids come in with assorted ailments after drinking Chinese formula. No, we bribed nobody for that endorsement. It's just an honest, small business with the customer at heart. A rare thing in China. If you can't accept it, then tough.
ScotsAlan:
I can accept it no problem coin. I know how important baby formula is here. My wife would only buy parallel traded stuff from NZ. Indeed, a UK manager in the company I work for arrived today, complete with 2 cans of milk for a member of his team. No charge for that tho. Its a gift.
coineineagh:
Very subtle. I pollute and have kids to feed, so I'm a bad bad profiteer. And if the kitchen sink were loose, you'd throw that at me too. So because I'm no philanthropist for buying, packing, shipping and delivering the formula to people free of charge, you hold on to the position that what I'm doing is not OK. I'd argue that anybody who can afford a reasonable price for our services can benefit. They don't need to be our close friend or have guanxi. And they pay less for our goods than for (allegedly) imported stuff in Chinese shops.
DA DA DADADA........FARKN....ARRRGGHH!!!!! MAHAT, MACOAT.....FARKIN....
I am in China because -
I realized teaching is my passion!
It's so much easier living here
A lot of opportunities
Making good money and not working 9 to 5
Colorful place, decent weather
I have a colorful life, not the kind of life I had in England
Then... Why are you wasting your energy on this forum?
My flight doesn't leave until June.
