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Q: why do you or would you want to ..... live in one of the most expensive cities in the world?

Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou.....   you must be nuts..... Hong Kong still nuts......there are a hundred, thousands of other places to be.....  Tokyo, no thanks, Seoul, no thanks   ....Paris, no, New york, no ... Vancouver, No..... .. small town, comfortable life is the place for me.

 

I think Mongolia or Xinjiang are really good options.......Tibet, if the politics would get out of my way.

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We lived in Manhattan for 5 years, and I loved it. I really enjoy being able to walk places without being chained to a car. In NY we could walk to so many different kinds of museums, concerts, restaurants and shops, plus Central Park. The trade off was a cramped apartment. I was OK with that. You have to pare down your possessions, unless you want to live in clutter.

 

I'm not sure about Chinese cities, though. I've never felt relaxed while walking in Beijing. Even on the sidewalks it feels like I'm going to be run over any moment. It's also too spread out with inadequate metro stops. When you factor in the hordes of migrant workers and pollution...no thanks!

 

We've talked about moving to Portland once the kids are in college. It has good public transport and interesting city amenities without the insane real estate prices.

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I had a look at house prices in Detroit recently.  Wow, you can buy a 3 bedroom house there for less than a 5 year old Buick  would cost you in China!!!  In fact... you could buy a street of houses.

 

But would I want to live there?    Nope wink

 

 

 

 

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Give me ANYWHERE in Yunnan.

 

Screw Shanghai.

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We lived in Manhattan for 5 years, and I loved it. I really enjoy being able to walk places without being chained to a car. In NY we could walk to so many different kinds of museums, concerts, restaurants and shops, plus Central Park. The trade off was a cramped apartment. I was OK with that. You have to pare down your possessions, unless you want to live in clutter.

 

I'm not sure about Chinese cities, though. I've never felt relaxed while walking in Beijing. Even on the sidewalks it feels like I'm going to be run over any moment. It's also too spread out with inadequate metro stops. When you factor in the hordes of migrant workers and pollution...no thanks!

 

We've talked about moving to Portland once the kids are in college. It has good public transport and interesting city amenities without the insane real estate prices.

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I agree.  I can't see big cities/world capitals as a nice place to live unless you are rich maybe. Quality of Life is higher and much more attainable in small towns. Of course, to each their own.

If I were super rich:

 NYC

 Paris

If I were pretty rich:

 Venice

 Amsterdam

If I were a regular guy:

 Cuba - Isla de la Juventud

 British Columbia - Victoria maybe or somewhere along the AlCan

 Palawan

 Camotes

 

 

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Interesting topic. I live in Guangzhou and love it even though it's about -4 million people. 

 

Before GZ I lived in Port Erin, Isle of Man. 3500 people from a population of 80,000 (drinks clinging to a rock!).

 

so seen both extremes! I loved both.

 

now....I'd love to live in a small Chinese town/village but would need access to some western necessities & conversation to keep me sane. 

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Mongolia is pretty much a single city state, and a very polluted one, with a harsh climate. In general, the smaller major towns of a country are far more affordable, with a good life level relative to the rest of the country. Auckland outskirts would be nice if I could, but I'm very happy around Bordeaux already.

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I heard that Sydney is 20% more expensive than New York!

 

If you're into culture, or making money, or an active social life - you're going to have to pay (and probably suffer) for it.

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wait, what kind of question is this? why wouldn't you? high wages, better night life, rich women... 

 

I want to live in expensive cities, because mostly that's where all the rich girls are...

 

 

 

I know, I am shallow...   

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I often visit Shanghai.  I love the access to shopping and the variety of restaurants and foreign groceries. I have been tempted several times to get a small house there for getaways.  But in the end, I don't want to live with the traffic, so many people, and the smog.  Big cities have many things that are attractive, but not enough.

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I guess it all depends on what you want out of life...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city

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Second tier is a good compromise, one must be mad to live in first tier cities.

 

I will keep defending Foshan (and other second tier cities), it's clean, lot of greenery, 90-95% of every shops/malls like GZ, much less crowded, people are locals with very few migrants and it is much cheaper in every aspects.

 

First tier means hordes of rude migrants, unbearable crowds, resulting filth and noise. No thanks.

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If I wanted to go to a Broadway show in NY.... it would be months or planning...  or a fancy thing in Paris or  a night out in Beijing.....    ..  a month or two or three of saved rent would pay for a flight  or a bus and an ticket. ...... sure don't give up anything material in small towns....  gain some recognition instead of blank stares .....I am simple.

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I prefer smaller Cities, AI hate it every time I must commute to a bigger City. I am happy in my little City, people know me, I know them, we have mutual respect. I know the City better then my own town in England.

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I've only lived in first tier cities. I've done a lot of traveling and I still enjoy the 2nd tier, but I never had an opportunity to live in a tier 2. Here's my rundown and reasoning.

 

Beijing- Loved it. I was a 20 year old exchange student at the time, I would have loved anywhere. Really enjoyed the music scene there, lots of interesting acts. Still have a soft spot for BJ, but looking back it's not that great.

Hong Kong - Love/Hate. Had a lot of fun but everything is really expensive and cramped. The job market is fierce. Tons of hard-working, talented people in Hong Kong (who don't need visas). Would I live there again, later in my career? Maybe, but I'd rather live in Europe for that price.

Shenzhen - Industrialized shit hole created to keep HK in arms reach. Nothing interesting, and the local version of Putonghua is a bastardization of Cantonese and Mandarin, felt like I never learned the language. Bailed after 2 months.

 

Shanghai- Been living here for a year now, and I love it so far because:

-I'm a smoker so I can't really complain about pollution while intentionally inhaling a pack of Zhongnanhais a day. 

-Endless Exploration - Always on the hunt for that new happy hour spot, coffee shop, bottle shop, place to get Cajun food... whatever. it's all here and looking for it is fun to me.

- World class public transportation, bye bye car payments.

- I notice less staring, hellorassment, peeing toddlers, and other symptoms of Chinese cities.

- Is my rent expensive? yes. But I've gradually adopted some tricks to live on the cheap, it's possible, and still cheaper than an average American city in most respects.

-Interesting people and plenty of job opportunities.

And the #1 reason:

-Lots of girls, in an astounding variety. A single guy can't do much better than Shanghai, IMO.

Cons:

-Hard to improve my speaking abilities. My friends and I speak English, and the locals are harder to make friends with here.

-Average price for a beer is 30-60 kuai. Ya, not a fan of that.

-Nightlife could be much better for a city this size. The few good places get worn out quickly.

 

 

 

 

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I am in Shanghai cool

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