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Q: Why does everyone here hate teachers with no degrees?

There seems to be enough teaching jobs for everyone, and I have seen dudes who have no high school education  do very well here, take their job seriously and be quite successful, I have also seen guys with degrees from some fancy school, completely suck ass at teaching but is too arrogant to look at himself and see whats wrong, so they just get screwed around by every school.  So if there are alot of jobs.... and good and bad teachers everywhere coming from both educated and uneducated backgrounds , then why all the hate???  IS it because you went to school  and payed all that money to be an english teacher for 1000 bucks a month and your pissed and embaressed? the only person you can feel better than  is your co-workers who didnt waste their money and time for a degree that has no value in your current position? That your doing a job not based on any actual skill other than the fact your parents had sex in an english speaking country???  I Cant get it... Non degree holders have had absolutly zero negative impact on me in my years here and I cant imagine a scenario where they could effect anyone. So please.... enlighten me.

FYI im not a teacher, so you can forget the holier than thou answers of how i should teach kindergarten, i just simply see alot of hate on here for people with no degrees. 2. did some of you really just compare yourselves to doctors??? jesus get over yourselves. in one post you complain about being nothing but foreign monkeys and the next your doing a valuable service to children. if we were all just realistic, and understood we are really doing nothing of value (including myself) and just in china for whatever reasons, then i think all the hate would stop. if you guys really thought you were so valuable and professional, there wouldnt be that hint of shame when you told others your job.

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Probably snobbery or a defensive mechanism, though actually I haven't encountered it.

Also I think it depends on what they're teaching...for proper academic English of course someone with 3-4 years of (if they're at a decent school) paper-writing, engagement with higher-order thinking, great ideas, and the like will (all else equal) be better for the students to contact with than someone who hasn't gone through that. For specialties like A-levels they also would benefit from having someone like this. Just going through the extra study gives you a better perspective of any subject.

But for everyday conversational English, such as for locals looking to travel/study/migrate, or for Kindergarten (as RobRocks mentioned, he seems like he's good at his job), it doesn't make sense to flat-out require a degree or look down on good teachers who don't have them.

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Cause many of them undercut wages. 

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Probably because they are worse than the ones with degrees.

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People naturally always throw out the victim card when something doesn't go completely their way - they took our jobs! they're persecuting us because we're Christians! -- etc.

 

Yes, this happens even in the ESL biz.

 

Teaching in Korea's a strange experience compared to China -- everybody clearly has a degree there so nobody talked about it, but in China, where you can't be so sure, you often here one boasting about their education level. 

 

Cute.

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Usually, it's the ones who shout the loudest that have something to hide.

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