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Q: Why local Chinese think Xinjiang ren are thief and ill mannered?

I am oftenly mistaken as xinjiang. My chinese friends told me I should not allow this as they are thief and bad.

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I think this statement hidden as a question is rather bigoted. Anyway, the thumbs down is mine in case you have any doubts.

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Ive been out to Xinjiang (Urumchi, Shi He Zi, etc.) very interesting place. It butts up against the Stans (failed Russian States). A little piece of Afghanistan touches it along a mountain range like a long, bony, finger of death. No official border crossing there, but people that don't mind risking getting their butt shot off, cross back and forth all the time. Its the wild, wild, west of China. I like it!

How do ya post pix on here? I have a ton of Xinjiang pix, me up on mountains and in Yurts eating and being entertained by them Muslim, Uyghur, singing and dancing tribesmen and ladies.

If ya want an adrenaline fueled road trip, take the karakoram highway out of  Kashgar in Xinjiang. It goes all the way to the Paki border crossing and then down to "baddass" Islamabad. Its mostly paved on the Chinese side, because they like to get troops up and close to the border (for obvious reasons). There is a paved road about 10 miles from the unofficial Afghan crossing (the Wakhjir pass).I was up on a Mountain and looked accross once.

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Once I saw a Xinjiang Ren wear white after labour day. I was scandalized.

jairoa:

What do you mean?

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Well, it's quite ill mannered, wouldn't you agree?

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GuilinRaf:

Generally speaking, one does not wear white after Labor Day as it is exclussively a summer color. By Labor Day, I guess Kchur means the U.S. version (in September) not May 1.

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because they are not "han."  i will give you 2 examples from my experience. while living in hohhot i was on a date (it was just english practice for her) i revisited 2 shops where had been to before. they made a big deal about me and tooks pictures with me. (i was still new to china only a few months here, so i was still friendly)  after visiting the 2 shops she looked at me and said. "the first shop owner is monglolian he cant be your friend. the second shop owner is chinese, he can be your friend" i asked why? her response mongolians will lie and try to take advantage of me. (coming from a women who i met on a dating web site but she was just going out with me to practice her english)

second quick example, i was in my apartment with my friend she was helping me cold-call schools . i showed her an advert from a uni in yinchuan Ningxia that offered 6500rmb monthly. i told her if i got that job i would gladly go there. she got really concerned and said no you cant they are bad people there. i asked why. she said her uncle traveled there and told her there were a lot of ethnics there and they didn't speak chinese. (i was waiting for there are a lot of pickpockets theives etc) this friend is very intelligent and very kind one of the true friends i met here, but they are indoctrinated starting at birth. 

jairoa:

Thanks for the reply. I don't want to stereo type before jumping to conclusion. I haven't really met Xinjiang people. How they look? And all...

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too me they look like afghans or eastern european

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Xinjiang people run the gamit in looks. Dark skinned, all the way to whitey white. Hair goes from black to blonde, eye color from brown to blue and green.

Its an ethnic mix up in there.

On the east coast you never see the Chinese Army unless there is a workers  riot, then they bus them on in to quell it. Out in the wild , wild , west of China (Xinjiang) you pass Army bases all the time with tanks parked and artillery rounds stacked up in pyramid piles.

Those muslim radicals out there are always shooting someone or blowing up busloads of people in Xinjiang. Ya'all just dont hear about it.

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if someone was occupying my land i'll do anything i can to get them off it

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I will give a counter exampple, although it's only a small one, but is personal. My ex-gf, from Heilongjiang, chose to go for a job up in Urumqi (mostly because she figured she'd have a better chance there than in most other cities in China). Went up for the interview, hung around for a few days - didn't have a bad thing to say about the place (of her own accord... she met someone who said something like "don't go down that part of town".)

So, not everyone here is so discriminating Smile

GuilinRaf:

I have a freind who is a tourguide, Han Chinese and she absolutely loves Xinjiang, especially Kashgar. Never heard her say anything bad about the "Xinjiang ren" either.

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Welll, I guess none of ya all lived in Xinjiang. Its a wonderful place. Hot in the summer and cold as ice in the winter with snow!

I love it, I loved most of the people. But there is a muslim extremist element out there. Its desolate country outside the cities with bandits.

Watch your ass in Xinjiang..or you just might get it shot off! About the closest analogy I can give ya, it reminds me of the SW border regions in the US...the AZ, TX, NM borders with Mexico, with the illegal aliens, and armed drug smugglers abouts. With Xinjiang add in "XXX, can't wait to get to ALLAH and the 70 virgins" radical gun toting bomb carrying muslims, and well...you get the picture.

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In Guangzhou, I heard all the time that the criminals are from the province -- all of the petty thieves, the pickpockets, etc.  It was just blatant stereotyping.  If there was  a crime, they were involved.  In other places, I made friends with "such people" and I was surprised that when, somehow, somehow, my employer learned of this, I was given a polite-little-talk and it sent a shudder down my spine.  In the city where I am, I live less than a five minute from a newly-built mosque, paid for the Patriotic Muslim Association or whatever it is called here.  Services appear to be well-attended but again I was "advise" to not to pass it on my bicycle, less I be photographed.  So I avoid it out of prudence and yet I frequent with impunity the halal restaurants in this city.

Additionally, in Beijing, I heard the same stories, only the race changed:  this time, according to my Beijing friends it was the gangs of Nigerians and South Africans that were responsible for all the crime in Beijing.  These tales must have reached high, high up because at one point, the government actually curtailed South African and Nigerian visas for a period of time.

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