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Q: Working for another institution during vacation (already have Z Visa)?

Hi everyone,

 

I'm an English teacher with a Z Visa and I'm bored to tears during the vacations. I tried to book a holiday overseas but had credit card problems and CTrip is extortionate compared to Western flight blucket shop websites (so my RMB are useless).

 

I've been offered a week's work at another school which would be awesome experience. I'd also love to help students in a foreigner-free tier 4 town! But my admin contact at my current school says I can't go.

 

Is it legal to take a short contract when you've already got a Z Visa? The internet says it's legal, illegal or legal but you need your employer's permission. I'm in Zhejiang if it makes a difference.

 

Apparently it is legal for the builders next to my dorm to work 24 hours a day, but obviously as a foreigner I have to be extra legit!!!

 

Sick to death of this frigging country and thinking about bailing out (again).

2 years 35 weeks ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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Yup, it's illegal. If your school didn't care it might not be a big deal but since they do it could get messy if you try your luck by doing it anyway.

 

The credit card thing can be a pain in the arse. I had problems with mine too but if you have a debit card with a visa logo on it that works too. Or if you have a friend with a working card you can ask nicely if they can help you buy a ticket.

 

Oh, and f**k the 24h builders! I've been through those sleepless nights trying to develop my jedi mind powers to the point where I can give them all hideous diseases before... after a week of it the neighbors were rebelling and calling the police and whoever else on them but it didn't make any difference. I guess if you have the connections you can be a selfish bastard.

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No, it is not legal for you to work for another company. The Z-visa/FEC now Work Permit is only for the company that applied for it on your behalf.

The permission "rule" is more them not taking issue/rating you out, because again they are the ones that applied for the Permit (got the permission) for you to work in China.

It is also not legal for a builder to work 24 hrs.

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Yup, it's illegal. If your school didn't care it might not be a big deal but since they do it could get messy if you try your luck by doing it anyway.

 

The credit card thing can be a pain in the arse. I had problems with mine too but if you have a debit card with a visa logo on it that works too. Or if you have a friend with a working card you can ask nicely if they can help you buy a ticket.

 

Oh, and f**k the 24h builders! I've been through those sleepless nights trying to develop my jedi mind powers to the point where I can give them all hideous diseases before... after a week of it the neighbors were rebelling and calling the police and whoever else on them but it didn't make any difference. I guess if you have the connections you can be a selfish bastard.

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If you have WeChat wallet/alipay use it to pay for a flight.   Boredom solved. 

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Illegal. Give it a try if you like though.

 

Alternatively you could buy a train ticket to a port and take a ferry to South Korea.

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Thanks all. Yeah school says no which is really disappointing as it's freezing cold, raining and there's only so many times you can watch every episode of Game of Thrones.

 

As always it seems Chinese people can do whatever the hell they like but we can't.

 

As for the credit cards - yeah I messed up my phone verification with one card, the other card flat out refused to go through. It's actually pretty hard booking flights in the UK using a card as it trips all their anti-fraud systems.

 

I had very little time to book and what if I had the flights then couldn't book accommodation? Yeah a real mess lol. And CTrip prices are 50% more than UK low cost websites!

 

There are flights from here to South Korea (cold) and Japan (expensive). Flights back home are still cheap, but that's cold as well.

 

Really stuffed up Chinese New Year but at least I'm getting paid for going mad in my room.

 

The builders are a nightmare, but I had the same problems in the UK. It's especially annoying as the Chinese excavator guy seems to cure his insomnia by doing a bit of digging.

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You have a work permit/resident Permit. NOT a Z-visa. Please don’t confuse them. 

 

Which low cost UK websites are you using? Ctrip isn’t actually too bad and saves having to pay ban transfer fees to send money back to pay off my UK credit card. 

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Z visa expires in 30-days of entry to China (or 90-days) and it's replaced by the Resident permit.

 

Get Chinese buddy, who can purchase stuff online and make her/him book your ticket (or anything else) for your refund in cash.

 

I practiced that 'policy'  all the time I lived in China.

Anyhow, wise people don't travel during Chinese New Year ....'cause whole China travels ... You don't want to experience that!

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Please leave and you'll find your problems traveling with you.

 

Grow up and take responsibility.

 

It clearly states in your contract and the law that you are not allowed to work for a company other than your visa  sponsor. So you can't whine about them not giving you permission. 

 

Now a grown up would be smart and work PT without opening their big fat damn mouth. A grown up would do this with the understanding that there are serious risks to doing this and be willing to take responsibility for their choices.

 

A grown up would get their bank accounts in order and be able to use websites other than Ctrip (and ctrip's price are not high in comparison)

 

What you're crying about is something you knew from the fucking door and decided to sign on the dotted line so honor your contract or find a grown up to replace your pathetic ass.

 

Teachers like you who can't read a contract and constantly break contracts simply because you wake up one morning and decide they can't accept the terms of the contract and blame the school.

 

When China is wrong I say so, you're in the wrong loser.

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I have always worked illegally here for other jobs in summer and definitely winter break, no police are working during the winter break to check any paperwork.

 

The only caution is don't make any body important pissed off at you, don't talk about your visa, don't have an accident or incident at the school your not suppose to be at and everything will be fine. Never tell your school your doing anything, they are responsible for your safety and security in the contract, so this the excuse they give for not allowing you to work somewhere else. Never let a school put money directly into your bank account that is not on your contract, cash only, no paper trail. Always remember the Chinese idiom " the nail above the floor gets the hammer," blend in and don't say much or rock the boat.

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Rather do not work during the winter vacation. I have to but I am used to it. A couple of years ago my friend took a part time gig after work and taught this student in his apartment. He quit the gig and told the parent that he was going back to Ireland. The mother came and looked for a replacement teacher at our school and found him here. She was furious and the school found out that he was doing part time work without their knowledge or consent. He was fired that same afternoon. He went to the TV news reporters and the whole situation played out on TV. The reporters stated his side of the story and our school's side of the story. Bottom line was that we should respect each other's cultures and each other but we should respect the contract and agreement that both parties have signed and agreed to first.  You on the other hand, have already asked your school if you could do part time work for the winter vacation so they already know what you are up to. If you go ahead, they will find out because here in China everybody knows everybody.

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