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Q: Working In China Without A Degree?

I want to go to China, I love China. I hope one day to live there. But I am struggling because I can not get a Visa. As I need a degree, which I dont have.

 

I do not want to work illegal, because I respect China and do not want to ruin my future to live there. I have been looking into different kind of visas but not sure what to do. Is there a way I can go to China and work? or even study? I don't mind studying in China to work towards a degree. I just do not want to be in England anymore.

 

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You can't get an English teaching job in China legally 'cause one must have a degree for Z visa.

Best is to have a look at Find Jobs and see what's available for foreigners without a degree.

 

Student visa is a way, but ... you have to consider how will you live in China 'cause students in China can't work, at least not legally. I'd say, you'll be able most likely to get a part-time job at English training mill, but again that won't be legal work.

Spiderboenz:

That’s not entirely true anymore. The law changed recently. In certain cities it’s possible for students to work if they get permission from this school and meet certain requirements. The fact that they’re not really letting international students into the country anymore makes it irrelevant though.

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It’s for Masters students, so a non-degree wouldn’t be able to do it. Also, with the “double reduction” crackdown that they did, 92% of all training mills have been shut down and the rest have gone non-profit.

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Of course, Cofid restrictions at entering China are the main thingy to make it almost impossible to do anything in China as a foreigner. I miss that out, 'cause ... that makes OP's Q irrelevant.

I just wanted more pints ..., he he

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You can't get an English teaching job in China legally 'cause one must have a degree for Z visa.

Best is to have a look at Find Jobs and see what's available for foreigners without a degree.

 

Student visa is a way, but ... you have to consider how will you live in China 'cause students in China can't work, at least not legally. I'd say, you'll be able most likely to get a part-time job at English training mill, but again that won't be legal work.

Spiderboenz:

That’s not entirely true anymore. The law changed recently. In certain cities it’s possible for students to work if they get permission from this school and meet certain requirements. The fact that they’re not really letting international students into the country anymore makes it irrelevant though.

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Spiderboenz:

It’s for Masters students, so a non-degree wouldn’t be able to do it. Also, with the “double reduction” crackdown that they did, 92% of all training mills have been shut down and the rest have gone non-profit.

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Of course, Cofid restrictions at entering China are the main thingy to make it almost impossible to do anything in China as a foreigner. I miss that out, 'cause ... that makes OP's Q irrelevant.

I just wanted more pints ..., he he

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Considering your goal versus requirements to achieve that goal, your options are slim at this time. If you are serious about moving to China, your only realistic option is to get a bachelor's degree. As a student, or even marrying a Chinese national does not offer you a revenue stream to maintain a life in China. 

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Students cannot work in China. Students can participate in an internship but their student residence permit must be marked to allow off campus internship with approval from both company and university and one has to maintain their study requirements such as grades and attendance. Also reimbursement for some expenses is allowed buy no salary.

 

It used to be relatively easy to avoid the degree requirement, but these days because the work permit application requires a degree then it is very difficult to overcome. One option is if you qualify for a category A work permit. Another option is if you qualify for a Chinese Green Card. Keep in mind the Green Card has a number of drawbacks, but will allow you to work without a work permit.

Hotwater:

The work application does not require a degree for a non-teaching job. So long as you get enough points on the ABC score you can get a work permit.

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