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Q: Would you like your home country to adopt a Chinese style immigration policy?

We all know and understand Chinese immigaration. That is, technically there is not one.  China works on "right of blood" when it comes to citizenship.

 

Now, this is not a question about us being guests here etc.  It's more a question about if China has the right system, and other countries have got it wrong.

 

And lets be clear, the Chinese law as much applies to natural born Chinese. If they go abroad and gain another citizenship, they are effectively stripped of Chinese nationality. This even applies to their kids born abroad.

 

So, would you like to see the Chinese system introduced into your home country?

 

Is the Chinese system better?

5 years 18 weeks ago in  General  - China

 
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For the uk it's probably too late to make much difference. But if we went back 60 years do you think the policy makers would think its a good idea to let lots of people migrate en masse to a country with a culture far removed from their own, who come from countries endemic with terrorism, religious extremism, social and sexual problems. They would say hell no that would be stupid, let's only have people from cultures conducive to integration with the host culture. The amount that the uk has to spend on anti terrorism because it allowed this immigration, is staggering. The military is recruiting 3000 new MOD police officers per year to protect nuclear facilities against the threat of domestic terror plots. They are increasing special force assets around the  country ten fold in order to ensure safety. All this money could have been spent on schools. In London the host culture has dissipated and London is 44 percent white. I don't think this is right. Would these countries immigrants are from like their capitals transformed like this. It's weird and creepy they don't see their own countries as good enough to try and develop rather than just immigrate to white countries. White countries are the only countries that are subjected to immigration on masse. 

 

If China maintains its current immigration policy and never allows immigration to exceed 7 percent it will have a major advantage over Western countries and will be able to safeguard history and culture. Allow immigration as it helps with the injection of a wider view and new ideas. It's a good thing, just not en masse.

 

 

 

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If you compare Chinese 'one child policy' with 'no immigration to China', it makes sense to me.

 

There're too many of them already. Why they would import some foreign temporary workers, who would then stay here permanently?

 

On the other side, EU residents are getting older, and seeking for fresh, younger tax payers from abroad.

I'm just following Greek-exit (and Putin-ski 'hand-loan-shake') at the moment in EU. 

Smallest EU countries have the same non-dual citizenship rule: 'if you apply for other citizenship, you'll lose your birth right citizenship'.

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I had a glance at users currently online: 'ScotsAlan, strawberry and icnif'. Do you think, she's after you? O2, o2

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Well, to make it harder for immigrants to come to my country... then yes. Fair is fair. But overall, it kind of just sucks. China is just too xenophobic and the government is too afraid of trying to cater to both the uneducated farmers and to foreigners.

 

Although, the "Chinese can only hold Chinese passports and Chinese nationality thing". Nah, I don't prefer that.

 

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For the uk it's probably too late to make much difference. But if we went back 60 years do you think the policy makers would think its a good idea to let lots of people migrate en masse to a country with a culture far removed from their own, who come from countries endemic with terrorism, religious extremism, social and sexual problems. They would say hell no that would be stupid, let's only have people from cultures conducive to integration with the host culture. The amount that the uk has to spend on anti terrorism because it allowed this immigration, is staggering. The military is recruiting 3000 new MOD police officers per year to protect nuclear facilities against the threat of domestic terror plots. They are increasing special force assets around the  country ten fold in order to ensure safety. All this money could have been spent on schools. In London the host culture has dissipated and London is 44 percent white. I don't think this is right. Would these countries immigrants are from like their capitals transformed like this. It's weird and creepy they don't see their own countries as good enough to try and develop rather than just immigrate to white countries. White countries are the only countries that are subjected to immigration on masse. 

 

If China maintains its current immigration policy and never allows immigration to exceed 7 percent it will have a major advantage over Western countries and will be able to safeguard history and culture. Allow immigration as it helps with the injection of a wider view and new ideas. It's a good thing, just not en masse.

 

 

 

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As a third generation American, I would not be who I am if the US did not have open immigration policies in place in the time period of 1900-1914. I don't know what I would be, but I am glad my ancestors were let into this country.

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Only for Chinese and folks from some other countries, reciprocity, stuff like that.

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To any person with enough money borders mean nothing. The rich of this world can come and go as they please, wherever and whenever they like. The very poor have no such luxury. There are over 60,000,000 refugees worldwide at this moment, more than half of them children, many orphaned through war. I think borders are there to keep the status quo. They are tools used to keep people in a subjugated state. China can do what it likes. I think that immigration could only do good things for a country that is so racially homogenous.

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Not at all. China's policy is basically Blut und boden, The ideology here is that someone is "Chinese" or "Foreign" based on their race (Chinese visible minorities are considered only "technically Chinese"), hence terms like "American Born Chinese" (Something I've never heard with other countries, no "American Born Norwegian" or "Canadian Born Irish").

 

The immigration policy reflects this. China is racially homogenous, and while they like to talk about their 55 recognized minorities in order to pretend they are multicultural, any one who looks too different from Han is still considered not really Chinese and marginalized.

 

I wouldn't want any Western country to adopt similar policies as China, like trying to keep Britain only for "ethnic British", in order to preserve the purity of the race.

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An open immigration policy can attract talented law-abbiding tax-payers, and even breed some more talented law-abbiding tax-payers, while bringing some diversity to the gene/meme pool. Example : some of my elders are Polish. Similar situation for about 70% of French population... I know modern examples, plenty of university mates who got naturalized, got kids, and are pretty much the dream citizens : good parents, work well, pay taxes, do civil duties, merge there native culture and French culture. Companies cheating on their taxes represent far more lost money that migrant cheating social welfare : the real welfare queens are big businesses. I'm ok with "right of soil" over "right of blood", it can work if the integration work is done on both side. I'm strongly against passerport-for-sell, however.

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https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twice-as-many-undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates

 

So the liberal ivy league elites admit that illegals are 22 million in America instead of all these fake numbers they have been giving us for years that it was not a problem.

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