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Q: Any updates on the relaxation of 'marriage visa' rules?
I remember there was talk about allowing those married to a Chinese person to work on a 'marriage visa'.
Then nothing more about this.
I'm currently on a working type resident permit so it isn't an issue, however, at dinner with some laoguys last night I heard stories about several people being refused visa renewals in the past month who have been in China for several years on marriage or business visas. I am unaware of their personal circumstances.
It would make providing for my family less complicated.
Just wondering if anyone has heard of any recent updates?
8 years 17 weeks ago in Visa & Legalities - China
man I have to do my marriage visa in June I hope I dont get refused.I got my marriage visa 2 years ago.
ironman510:
dont worry man, you'll be 100% fine, been watching guys here renew Qs a lot..
ironman510:
oh I forgot, because you finished 2 years, your next Q might be a 3 year or better.
royceH:
A Q visa is a spouse visa, right? But what's the point of having one if work is req'd? I suppose doing some work on the sly might be possible on a Q, but that wouldn't amount to the perks of a real job. Or would it...? Hmmm.....
Not heard anything about this and I try to keep up with visa changes. Would benefit all of us married folks if there were changes to allow us to work without a work permit, based on a marriage RP
man I have to do my marriage visa in June I hope I dont get refused.I got my marriage visa 2 years ago.
ironman510:
dont worry man, you'll be 100% fine, been watching guys here renew Qs a lot..
ironman510:
oh I forgot, because you finished 2 years, your next Q might be a 3 year or better.
royceH:
A Q visa is a spouse visa, right? But what's the point of having one if work is req'd? I suppose doing some work on the sly might be possible on a Q, but that wouldn't amount to the perks of a real job. Or would it...? Hmmm.....
I strongly doubt that will ever come into effect. They do not want more foreigners in the job market. And they definitely do not want you in control over your own visa (with regards to employment).
ironman510:
But married folks would be better, we work harder and invest into china and we don't run out of the job.
Englteachted:
Ironman: I agree, what you said is logical but this is China.
I doubt this would happen as the potential for abuse (marriage of convenience) would go through the roof, plus what Englteachted mentions.
Spiderboenz:
Well, what if you still needed to get the FEC, and had to continue to meet the z visa requirements to maintain the FEC?
Sinobear:
Sounds like a lot of extra work (you'd have the marriage bureau, the local police, the PSB AND the labor bureau involved)...and you know how much the Chinese love extra work.
It would be much simpler if they finally, and really, relaxed the issuance of permanent residence permits.
iWolf:
At the time they mentioned requirements of having worked and paid taxes whilst living in China for 5 years and property ownership. I suppose that was the method of weeding out marriages of convenience scammers. Not perfect but workable to some degree. And 5 year visas.
Hotwater:
These requirements of being married 5 years, paying taxes and property ownderhip sound exectly like the requirements for the fabled D-visa, the so-called green card.
iWolf:
The mythical green card is like unicorn shit for the average joe.
Sadly I can't see this happening either. It would result in undesirables stealing "their" woman and jobs.
Slightly off topic:
A couple of non-native speakers where I work were told that they could no longer renew their working type RP in a well known 2nd tier city in Guangdong. Only those from the big 5 countries can renew from this year.
The HR and Foreign Affairs dept were called to a PSB "info session" this week and given the news. Warnings were issued about spot checks to follow this year. Also a few people I know who had been in China for some time on F visas were refused renewals.
A wind of change? It appears so in this city.
After 1 year am renewing my Temp Resident Permit given because married to Chinese girl here in Xiamen. Was told at renewal application that I will most likely get a 2 year permit and that after a total of 5 years as a temp resident that most likely I would be switched to a Permanent Resident Permit ( similar to Canadian policy )
so that does raise the question about working here.
Instead of starting a new post I figured I'd ask here as it seems one or two of you have a marriage visa.
1) When switching from a work permit or tourist visa to a marriage visa do you need to leave the country?
2) Can you go through the process briefly for me? Like how easy is it to get (Looking to get a 1+ year visa)
Thanks.
ScotsAlan:
I am not on a marriage visa, but I know a guy who is. Just ask your wife to go to the PSB and they will guide her through it. You need to do a medical, but no need to leave the country. It takes 3 or 4 weeks if my memory serves me right. You should get a 2 year Residence Permit in your passport. It's a lot easier to get than a work permit.
But you can't work on it. That's something the Chinese Government need to change.
iWolf:
Sorry mate, although I'm married to a Chinese girl, I have a working type resident permit so I don't know how the marriage visa deal works. Still keeping my fingers crossed that maybe one day it will become easier to support my family.
Susya:
I didn't have to leave the country when I applied for the family reunion residence permit and continued working on my work visa.
I came here using a 90 day work visa, got married and then applied for "temp resident permit" as married.
basic process
- use your entry visa to register at local police station on where you live ( you will need this )
- get at least 4 colour passport photo done
- get a full medical completed , this will take at least one day and you will get poked and prodded - they need passport photo
- marriage took about an hour at local office , they need photo for marriage document and is photo with you and wife with red background ( local photo shops know this )
- go to local entry/exit office , expect two trips as most likely they will find something wrong - need photo for application
- took about 3 weeks to go back and then pickup your passport , they will give you a piece of paper saying your passport in for update and will have a pickup date on it also.
i then took day trip to Hong Kong via Shenzhen, simple walk across the boarder , played tourist for a day then came back.
pretty easy process
I just did my renewal , that was also straight forward and was updated that after 5 years I could receive something equivalent to "permanent resident status" ( this is what's it's called in Canada).
Also the renewal could have been a 2 year visa but my passport expires 2018 so they could not give the two year version.
Hotwater:
What you refer to as"permanent resident status" is the fabled D-visa or so-called Chinese green card. They give 10 years stay and no need for a work permit. BUT they are not automatic after 5 years of marriage. They're still very difficult to qualify for.
Which area of China told you about this?
Mrdoug90:
It's not letting me use the "Add Comment" link for some reason but, thanks for the useful information.
Was the trip to Hong Kong necessary for them to switch your visa?
