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Q: Can the Chinese internet police check our emails, phones?

I'm both paranoid and ignorant, which is definitely not a good combo. Enlighten me: just how easy is it for internet police to spy on our emails for keywords, sky convos or phones?

 

I heard from people that if they want to, the government has the power to pretty much shut down all phone signals for a short period of time (say, in times of crisis)...

7 years 7 weeks ago in  Health & Safety - China

 
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there are plenty of search engines that let you find people and many different methods of searching.
the best advice i can give you is lock or delete your social networks.
But anybody determined enough will find another door you can't shut or know about.

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Of course they can, and be assured that it is monitored.  In China, and many other countries on Earth, under the pretense of "internal security".  Now, if you are totally clean, why does it bothers you ?.  It does not bothers or worries me one bit.  I do not deal, use, or store drugs.  I do not involve myself in any illegal type activity.  While in China, I do not talk about politics or religion with anyone.

They want to check on me, that is fine, I have no worries because I am not doing anything "borderline or dangerous".  Eventually they will get tired and seek another one to spy on.

If hackers can shut down websites at will, don't you think a government could cut out Internet access by flipping a switch type of thing.  With mainly three Internet providers in China, it would be very easy to interrupt service if needed or wanted by the Government.

But again, why worry about what could happen that may never happen ?.  I will worry when it does happens, if ever, but not before.

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Mr Spoon, do you think that other societies do not do that ?.  For a fact it is done in many advance technological societies, like USA UK, etc.  It is very common to have Internet, cell phone calls, etc, screened in the name of internal security, It is unfortunate, but it has become a way of life.  Since it is nothing I can do about it, I do not allow it to worry me.  I have been living in China for two years, visiting China extensively since 1997.  Always brought a laptop with me, and surfed Internet as I wanted, and never received any visits because of it, nor a warning or a service interruption.  But as I said above, I do not join in any political or religious comments about any foreign country, and keep my surfing within the confines of my apartment.  And I do surf a lot, even some porno sites once in a while.  It is fun to watch them with my GF and make fun of the action shown.

Thakkudu: of course it is your right to consider my avatar to be XXX. And it is mine to consider it a subliminal message. There are narrow minded people who in many ways do have a prick for a brain, and I use my avatar to make fun of them. I submitted it for approval when I joined this site, and it was. So, until Mr CAT informs me that I should change it, it will stay as it is.

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I've heard that they do this.

 

More importantly, your employer might also be reading your emails. So I think it is important to use a VPN.

 

It is also not true that its "safe" if you didn't do anything wrong. There are a lot of laws which are easy to break. For example, here in China it is illegal for foreigners to interfere in China's "internal affairs". So if you are caught visiting a website that criticizes China, or posting comments that have to do with politics or current events, that could be used against you.

 

You probably won't get in trouble just for small things. However, if you make enemies with the wrong person, they could use their connections to search out any small mistake you might have made.

 

I should also note that many people are habitual lawbreakers. There are people who smoke the "whacky tabbacky". There are people who date underage women, or pay for sex. There are people who cheat on their taxes or have illegal employment. There are people who break other financial, environmental, or consumer protection laws. There are people who have kinky taste in pornography. There are people who are part of activist groups which governments have labeled "terrorist". There are people who have friends or relatives who do these things and are therefore accomplices or accessories. Finally, there are people who haven't done anything wrong but can be framed by law enforcement agencies in situations where the process of law is flawed. If you add them all up, it is a lot of people. This significant portion of the populace is always under threat and and have their political power of organization and representation limited as a result.

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I use a VPN, if I'm looking at streets here I can zoom down and see cars. These aren't really satelite pictures but are taken from high altitude aircraft. i use it to learn my way around the city. I looked at Thailand. If I want to show someone my house in Canada, I know it shows when at home, I can see my house, the circular driveway all sitting in the middle of about 10 acres. When I zoom in from here using a VPN when I zoom down, my screen goes black and I get a message that a driver has quit working. I'm being censored.

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I just use gmail and I don't think they can monitor emails sent on that webite or the other big search engine sites. That kind of volume along with state of the art secure code procedures for handling all the emails would make it damn near impossible to find someone doing something dangerous. I don't know for sure but I think they cant too interested in reading all of the email sent on google servers in the mainland.

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don't be naive, folks, 100% yes, there are filters in place on the Net at all times.  They have the equivalent or Cray supercomputers on duty in BJ.  It's easy enough to filter through all of this in the blink of an eye.  The same for phone chats and the like.  As for the Post Office, that goes without saying.

 

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If that is true anti-kchur why do they let facebook through with the use of a VPN when it has links to certain religious heads of state from countries which may or not have always been part of China. Those same links would be blocked without a VPN and they are not when using a VPN. 

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it is very easy .
A VPN is only reliable when you know who provides you the VPN .
what you heard is true and already happened once from what I heard .
Some users in this thread have a good foresight .

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They do.  Both.

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Why would anyone think the Chinese government was any different from other government and not check emails/phone calls?

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No don't be silly they won't and they can't. It's virtually impossible to do that. You would have to hack into someone's computer mainframe and start debugging everything and setting everything up to their preferences....its too complicated. The phone tapping is impossible to. What you see in movies that only happens if they wire tap the phones...again they would have to work hard to do that which I don't think it could be done here. 

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What the government don't know by monitoring you the wumao's tell the government anyway

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They can also tell your location by your mobile phone, and where you use your credit/bank card.

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I've wondered if they keep files or info on us. I often noticed plain clothes cops around me. One hung around the alley I had to use late at night. 

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They can. Allow me to expound...

 

Do not give them your phone number or email address. You may end up needing to give them your phone number eventually. However, they cannot read your emails unless you are receiving unencrypted email messages over a Chinese internet connection.

 

If you are using Chinese software on your phone such as baidu input, QQ, et al, then they can read/do almost everything. They can and will remotely listen in on your phone if they're suspicious. Watch your data usage for strange patterns.

 

You cannot protect yourself with a VPN. PPTP is extremely insecure and easy to snoop in on. OpenVPN is still good, but!!! If you have Chinese software installed on your PC or Phone, it doesn't matter if your internet connection is encrypted when the software is logging your key strokes and sending it back. If you have QQ installed, the CCP can remotely listen in on, and control your computer. This is why I run QQ on a virtual machine.

 

This is why I keep telling my wife to stop installing Chinese software on my phone or computer. Do not use any Chinese software if you need secure communications. I do not even use sougou pinyin since it's constantly phoning home. Instead, run it within a virtual machine.

 

TLDR: Use OpenVPN and NO Chinese software.

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I'll add:

 

My wife and I were talking about having many children on QQ. Within a day, the family planning police raided her house and demanded that they show papers. My wife's mother had to prove that her tubes were cauterized (this was done forcibly since she had 2 kids already).

 

They also gave my wife condoms and told her to behave.

 

I've had a QQ number banned for "spreading incorrect information" after telling someone on QQ that the CCP monitors everything being sent. Keywords are triggered, and foreigners are easy targets since there are few of them. Are they this stupid and obvious? Yes, yes they are.

 

Are they watching? YES, they are. There are keyword triggers (more than 1 child, ccp/government stuff, etc).

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If you google you can find stories about people getting arrested purely based on stuff they've written on their computers. There was a guy recently who, during questioning, heard word by word quotes from his wechat conversations. 

 

To the person monitoring this site. I feel sad you are so ill equipped. 

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Would you like an example of how easy it is to get personal information about anyone?

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there are plenty of search engines that let you find people and many different methods of searching.
the best advice i can give you is lock or delete your social networks.
But anybody determined enough will find another door you can't shut or know about.

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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mom-gets-tech-obsessed-kids-163100939.html

 

change the password daily and put the crackers in a different position everyday to prove your not using photoshop and you are actually doing the cleaning chores before logging on, clever mom.

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