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Q: Diploma Authentication Required?

I have been told by a recruiter that a new regulation in China requires foreigners seeking a Z visa to get their diplomas authenticated.  Any truth to this rumor?  If authentication is required, how do I obtain it?
 

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And now for something completely different:

What if our home countries held Chinese migrants to the same standards?

 

"Ooooh...you hurt our feelings."

 

The whole process would be excellent (a la Shining_brow) if were not merely an aside to get rid of foreigners and replace them with native Chinese who can barely handle the, "How are you?" "I am fine, sank you, and you?" routine.

 

I mean really, it's impossible for a PhD linguist to be a pedophile? 

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icnif77:

Here in Kaifeng, IELTS/TOEFL Training mill runs without FT. My ex-student is there, and she asked me what do I think about it. 

I said: 'you should ask them how many students passed either exam successfully, before you paid ...'

She: 'my father enrolled me ....'

Pop is loaded, kid with latest iPhone thingy.

 

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Shining_brow:

Umm - Australia does have that level of checking. If you want to be a teacher in Oz, you do need to have that degree, and have it authenticated. Pretty sure the criminal history check as well... though, it'd sort of be hilarious if the Aus government then got wise, and said "no, not just local police checks - we mean the whole country!!"

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I am thinking along the lines of "raising the bar."

 

What if you have to have a b.a+no criminal record?

What if you have to have a b.a in the related field + no criminal record.

What if you have to have a Masters+no criminal record?

What if you have to have a Masters in the related field + no criminal record

What if you have to have a PhD+no criminal record?

What if you have to have a PhD in the related field + no criminal record

What about only education degrees?

What about only those with teaching certifications?

What's the threshold for a criminal record? DUI? Minor infractions? Pardonable offenses?

 

I mean really, you're being very naive if you think Papa Xi is doing this to set higher standards for foreign teachers AND even more naive if you think this will result if even higher salaries and benefits for FTs.

 

Since 1998 (when I was invited here and you couldn't simply land on the shores and get a job) I've seen salaries and benefits decrease whilst expectations and hours increase. I've seen good people let go, pieces of excrement (sycophants) last years, heads of households denied visas and backpackers lauded.

 

I've seen more of my share of degreed people with severe psychological disorders and completely altruistic people with no degrees...

 

What's really necessary to get the fat little dumplings overseas? Oh wait, Papa Xi no longer wants the fat little dumplings to go overseas...not because of the "brain drain" (as if that were ever possible in China) but because of the money leaving.

 

Soooo...where does that leave you and me, my brothers and sisters? Behind the 8-ball. We are only a necessary evil and the free ride will come to an end - regardless of degree, specialization, or non-criminal record, soon.

 

Have you got your parachute picked out?

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Recruiter told me, SAFEA won't issue new FEC/WP, if diploma isn't authenticated. 

 

Then, rep from the new job told me that too, so it looks it is new requirement/regulation.

 

She knows an office in Guizhou, which provides such a service, and I consider myself lucky, 'cause I have an original with me in China. 

I guess, if I would be in China only with scanned diploma files, I had to get original sent from my home. 

I'll tell more about authentication office in a week or so.

ironman510:

So wait up man, if you've got original degree with you, that gets you passed the authentication step? Just by having the original degree in your hands? I thought it meant we need to go back to our school for stamp or go to the Chinese embassy and get that sticker they place on the back.

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icnif77:

If I am honest, I don't know what to expect in Guizhou. I am in constant contact with rep, and after she told me I must have degree authenticated, I replied that I have an original diploma with me, beside files on CV and I can show original to the FEB. I thought, she meant I must authenticate CV attached degree file.

Then she replied, she knows the office in the city, where authentication can be done. I guess with original.

The recruiter, who told me about authentication requirement couldn't tell me, how that can be done and if it can be done in China. He just said: 'FEB won't give you new FEC, if your degree isn't authenticated.'

I'll get back to the Board about authentication office in Guizhou.

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ironman510:

My friend who works with the Government public school in Shenzhen just said that his HR said: "Just spoke to our hr guy, he said it is in a few places, but not been enforced in Shenzhen at this time "

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Guizhou rep is telling me 'by the rules in Guizhou.....degree must be authenticated...'.

She was at SAFEA, 'cause before she told me about authentication, she asked me for the FEC files.

The thing what bothers me, you must have degree authenticated, before new FEC is issued. In other words, I should already return from the school or Chinese Embassy with stamped degree. There's no time to get degree authentication. You must just have it. Even if Chinese office will authorise it, it must be done in a week. I don't think, that's possible. So, let see what will happened in Guizhou.

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ironman510:

Feels like they wanna Trump us out of China and make us pay for the ticket home. No need for a wall, they already have one.

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Difficult to determine what Chinese really want or think, because they act homogeneously, but I see Chinese foreign (English or other) language future with Chinese English teachers mostly and Native English teachers employed only exceptionally. 

I agree with Sino bellow on most or all of his points. Chinese will take over (they do already) English teaching by themselves, doesn't matter 'final score'-end result.

At IELTS/TOEFL mill I was moonlighting in the beginning, I had to train student by TOEFL newest edition book (I forgot the title), and they dismantled my suggestions on prepping student with TOEFL test exams available on Internet and IELTS/TOEFL prep material I got from poster here. Thank you, A!

I hate to work with the book, which is too difficult for the student as my student was. Never mind! Use the book, only!

My ex-student from Public school is coached on IELTS by Chinese teacher, and they run everything by the IELTS book. The girl's English is very good, and I told her she must practice a lot by herself also. I gave her FocusEnglish with instructions 'how to..' and several websites with IELTS prep tests for home exercise.

The other TOEFL mill is run by Chinese teachers, only. Another one of my students is attending prep there.

In my opinion, China would gain more, if Native English teachers would teach Chinese English teachers instead of students, but 'face-you' is big obstacle to my idea/suggestion.

We really don't understand Chinese. They run life different than we do.

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I can only assume that this is for NEW FEC books as I renewed mine last month in the deep south with the same company and didn't have to do anything. New working type res permit to be collected next week.

 

I sent out a call to our newbie to see if he had to. I will update when I get his reply.

 

Policy/rules are applied differently in different locations.

iWolf:

A mate who just got a job as an IELTS examiner in GZ has to get criminal checks both here and in his home-country as well as all of his certs authenticated. Unsure if this is government or IELTS policy as he has had several working type res permits before.

And just in...the new guy had to get everything authenticated before he could get his Z visa.

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Shining_brow:

Becoming an examiner does have those sort of requirements as far as certifications, and IIRC so too the criminal history check, as there is a strong anti-child molestor policy is in place (well, at least in theory). They also check references/referees.

 

British Council has a fake reputation to uphold.

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iWolf:

They appear to be quite thorough. Some guy speaking gutteral scottish english called me to verify the details in the stellar recommendation letter I wrote for him.

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ironman510:

If you changed jobs then maybe they'd ask for authentication. But iWolf you stayed at the same place, so of course it wouldn't apply to you and less paper work for FEC

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icnif77:

What's the difference between 'new FEC' and 'extension of FEC'?

If they changed Law provision, it should apply to both. Just sayin'.

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I totally agree with this policy! It's part of the reason there are so many illegal 'English' teachers working here, and hopefully it's the next step on the policy changes.

 

As to how to authenticate... ask SAFEA if they're actually competent. That will determine what you have to do.

 

If they're competent, you can just authorise your (legitimate) university or college to grant access to your records.

 

If not, then you'll have to - a) get another original copy (I doubt SAFEA is going to accept a photocopy - even if that photocopy is verified as true and genuine by a Notary Public or similar..., b) have it authenticated by some government department, (or, if you're lucky, the Notary Public) c) have that authentication authenticated by a Chinese embassy/consulate back home.

 

Obviously, if you're diploma is fake, or you got it from a non-accredited agency, you're in trouble....

 

Also - transcripts are more valuable than just the 'diploma'. The Diploma may look nice, but the transcript says a hell of a lot more (including student number, enrollment dates, and of course, your grades!)

Englteachted:

Really, this is going to do anything about illegal teachers?

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Shining_brow:

Engles, there are a number of ways someone can be teaching illegally here. The first is the school. so, no, this isn't likely to stop that, because the school owner usually knows someone in the PSB who is willing to pass their visa application.

 

But - no, not a lot. Unqualified teachers aren't really at the top of the illegal teaching list. I'd suggest the number of teachers here without a bachelor's degree is relatively small (6%?? Maybe Lord H can tell us?) The percentage having a good TESOL qualification - THAT'S an issue!

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Tesol/TEFL are bollocks qualifications. Somethink akin to a coupon on a weet bix box. Even celta is pretty meaningless. Go to Thailand for a month, sit through a few hours of illprepared lectures by semi-drunk sexpats, sit an exam a monkey could pass and there you are, celta cert in hand.

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@iwolf - have you actually done a CELTA:? And if so, where? Cos what you described was NOT like what I did in Shanghai.

 

I'm not suggesting it's awesome (it's not!) but much better than the dodgey I did in Melbourne which got me into China.

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These requirements were valid country wide as of December 9th 2015 and were forwarded to me by a colleague this morning.

As follows:

The Yunnan Foreign Expert Bureau now requires all foreign teachers academic degrees to be authenticated by Chinese embassies in their home countries. This applies for the renewal of permits expiring this year for those teachers already in China. As well as authentication of the degrees the bureau also requires authentication of TEFL degrees as well as translation of degrees, transcripts and TEFL certificates. This process can only be carried out at the Chinese embassy of your home country.

 

I write for those of us who may be heading home for the New Year Break and so can get the necessary work done then.

 

 

The notice then went on to state (what we already suspected) that nationals who teach English must hold the nationality of an English speaking country. The exception being those who come from non English speaking countries but have a Masters degree from a university in an English speaking country.

 

Overseas Chinese who were born in China but hold the passport of another nation will no longer be eligible for FEC in the education sector.

 

Thought it may be useful to know or prepare for.

 

This may be in line with the national immigration computer system they are planning to roll out.

ironman510:

Not sure about the renewal part,I renew in July, I'll update if they ask me to go home and get everything authenticated in Colorado, U.S.A.. Man that wouldn't be part of my vacation plans, just to go home to get everything authenticated? And Wall Street doesn't give us 3 week holidays.

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ambivalentmace:

they copied the policy from thailand, thailand started requiring document authenticated in home country embassy about 5 years ago to cut down on criminals and fraud and now thailand and china are best buddies again after the military took over. i suspect this will be selective enforcement like everything else in china, some western countries have privacy laws for verifying this stuff without written permission, not sure how that is going to work for people who dont want to go back home for this.

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icnif77:

It's getting expensive and tiresome all this Oral English teaching in China.

 

I get all my things sorted here: after immediate termination of Contract, I got RL and Rec. letter, and I am heading to new school in Guizhou. Boss is buying a ticket, apartment for me is rented already, rep's asking me 'how much you'll charge for part-time class' and similar. By Contract, I can't part-time, so RP sponsor will part-timeangel me, but I am expensive for their measures. She's asking me about extra work, on the top of 25 classes/week I have. No sleep, just teach....

And then, 'degree must be authenticated'.... I'll might retire soon.

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And now for something completely different:

What if our home countries held Chinese migrants to the same standards?

 

"Ooooh...you hurt our feelings."

 

The whole process would be excellent (a la Shining_brow) if were not merely an aside to get rid of foreigners and replace them with native Chinese who can barely handle the, "How are you?" "I am fine, sank you, and you?" routine.

 

I mean really, it's impossible for a PhD linguist to be a pedophile? 

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icnif77:

Here in Kaifeng, IELTS/TOEFL Training mill runs without FT. My ex-student is there, and she asked me what do I think about it. 

I said: 'you should ask them how many students passed either exam successfully, before you paid ...'

She: 'my father enrolled me ....'

Pop is loaded, kid with latest iPhone thingy.

 

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Umm - Australia does have that level of checking. If you want to be a teacher in Oz, you do need to have that degree, and have it authenticated. Pretty sure the criminal history check as well... though, it'd sort of be hilarious if the Aus government then got wise, and said "no, not just local police checks - we mean the whole country!!"

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Sinobear:

I am thinking along the lines of "raising the bar."

 

What if you have to have a b.a+no criminal record?

What if you have to have a b.a in the related field + no criminal record.

What if you have to have a Masters+no criminal record?

What if you have to have a Masters in the related field + no criminal record

What if you have to have a PhD+no criminal record?

What if you have to have a PhD in the related field + no criminal record

What about only education degrees?

What about only those with teaching certifications?

What's the threshold for a criminal record? DUI? Minor infractions? Pardonable offenses?

 

I mean really, you're being very naive if you think Papa Xi is doing this to set higher standards for foreign teachers AND even more naive if you think this will result if even higher salaries and benefits for FTs.

 

Since 1998 (when I was invited here and you couldn't simply land on the shores and get a job) I've seen salaries and benefits decrease whilst expectations and hours increase. I've seen good people let go, pieces of excrement (sycophants) last years, heads of households denied visas and backpackers lauded.

 

I've seen more of my share of degreed people with severe psychological disorders and completely altruistic people with no degrees...

 

What's really necessary to get the fat little dumplings overseas? Oh wait, Papa Xi no longer wants the fat little dumplings to go overseas...not because of the "brain drain" (as if that were ever possible in China) but because of the money leaving.

 

Soooo...where does that leave you and me, my brothers and sisters? Behind the 8-ball. We are only a necessary evil and the free ride will come to an end - regardless of degree, specialization, or non-criminal record, soon.

 

Have you got your parachute picked out?

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I remember hearing last year at a government meeting that original certificates were going to be used from now on and that photocopies would not be accepted. I think this is good, when I was working in HR the amount of questionable degrees I received from applicants was shocking. Many just put their names on someone elses certificate and sent that. It is a step in the right direction. They still need to make sure that the qualifications are relevant. For example I don't see how a Russian with a degree in Engineering is qualified to teach English

ironman510:

The whole bring the real actual degree has been used for 2 years now. This new law if really implemented into every city through out China would require all foreigners to go back to their home country or country of where they got their degree and apply for authentication and that includes TEFLs / TESOLS/ CELTA, FBI or criminal background checks to all be authenticated before coming to China or before coming back to China for your renewal or new Z visa & working permit.

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I had to show hard copy of my degree first time to rep in Sep, 2014. Nothing else.

On the other side, he signed Contract with me without having 'laowai hire authorization'.

He knew some 'new rules' MF, but he didn't know, I'll have to exit China, because School didn't have an authorization yet and couldn't extend my valid RP. I made them pay for my exit&return. Comfort wise! LOL 

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This is one of those deals where it might seem good on the surface but in reality will suck. When the govt. mandated background checks I thought good this would get rid of some of the riffraff and make me more valuable. But I saw jobs go to eastern Europeans, Filipinos all with heavy accents. While getting a background check in the states is a pain that must be endured every time I change cities. Unqualified native passport holders just work on a different visa or through an agency for a lower salary. It actually helped keep salaries stagnant. Many schools don't even want to hire teachers under a Z visa the fines are small compared to the headache. I'm hoping that I will only need to get 1 authenticated copy even if I change cities. 

In truth, this will drive the unqualified to sign up with agencies and will further hurt the employability of teachers like me (who want to work 100% legally and who are qualified)

ironman510:

So in other words: sign me up for 10 year business visa, or a 2 year Q visa (if married).

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Also I agree with others here, they want us out and turn the jobs over to the locals in the future, they'll suck but its all about face. Maybe that's why they introduced that "Talent Visa" with a 5 year RP.

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Woe     is       me  .........................  trouble     and    strife      in    the       fam   i    ly......

 

And my degree is only a diploma...    Not even a fukn degree.  It is real, but only a diploma.  As is my nursing certificate, like a diploma equivalent.  The TESOL is real too.

However none of this a degree makes.

Don't have any of these things here with me and....perhaps funniest of all....I don't have an effing clue where they'd be.  Sure, call me a rabble...I can take it.  Been called worse things.

Blew 2.5 houses on a stupid business arrangement before shooting through to China.

I mean, how stupid would you have to be to throw a quarter of a million at an idea of growing fish?  Fuck me.

Haven't contributed to superannuation since becoming self employed 20 years ago.

And I'm out of a job at the end of June.  

Might neck myself after I empty the fridge of all this grog.

Happy Qing Ming.

 

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Any news on this for applying for FEC and RP renewal in Shenzhen?
I want to move there in August, and I have a month and half after my contract expires before my RP does.
Are there any alternatives, or is this thing by discretion of each province?
A trip back to the U.S. for something so trivial would be pretty annoying.

ironman510:

I'm in Shenzhen and my visa is up in June. So I've been asking all over, no one has heard of this law yet nor did our HR get an email from the Shenzhen FEC or Educational Gov, we also asked all job contacts who look for teachers, they also have not heard about this law in Shenzhen. I'm from the U.S and would be required to return in person to handle this, not allowed to ask for a someone to help me. So it would be a huge blow to a lot of guys and to schools, but hey maybe thats the point, clean up time.

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Looks like it's required now, university in Jiangxi just asked me for "Copy of academic degree or diploma and its Chinese Embassy' Authentication"

Zethe:

This is really stressful and stupid.
I'll just start using my other skills for some other job than English teaching.
I can't understand why China has to have some new BS hoop to jump through when renewing a visa.
I mean obviously the first time my documents were fine, and those were already a hassle to get notarized back home.

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Chhris:

It's not as bad as you think. Someone from your family can go and help you get it notarized for you. You don't need to do it in person. There are some fees of course but the whole process can be done in 2-3 weeks.

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Was this for renewal or a new Z visa and or transfer?

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For a new Z visa.

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ironman510:

Thanks man, starting around July a ton of teachers will start to renew with their current company. So It will be interesting to see who has to jump through a few hoops here just to keep their current working visa.

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So if I'm transferring to a new company, my guess is I might have to jump through this hoop as well.
I only have a month after my contract ends before my FEC and RP expire, do you think that's enough time considering this policy?

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We stumbled across this and it seems China is going through it's authentication gig, well at least it's looking like Korean ESL requirements, well at least in JiangSu Province, China:

 

 

Requirements
- Up to date CRB (criminal background check within one calendar year of start date)
- Bachelors Degree (must be certified by a Chinese Consulate or Embassy officer in home country)
- Up to date Resume/CV
- Current Passport (Native English speakers only - USA, CANADA, UK, AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND)
- Previous employer reference letter

 

 

 

Chhris:

I think Ireland is also considered as native-English speakers by China, when I am looking at the job listings Ireland often crops up as one of the possible nationality accepted as native-English speaker for teaching positions.

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Ireland should be perfectly ok, But just saw this as well:

We require you to have/be:

- A Native English speaker (we can no longer consider South Africans due to visa regulations)

 

I've got some South African friends here. It's gonna be a strange year.

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@ Ccchris Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Ireland part of the United Kingdom?

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Yeah, I also thought that, but knowing how China reformats their maps everyone will be from a none native country one of these days.

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"United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"... vs "Republic of Ireland" (aka "Ireland").

 

So, no - 'Ireland' is NOT part of the UK. The capital of Northern Ireland - Belfast. Capital of Ireland (Republic of) Dublin.

 

 

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For Guangdong Province cities and yes Shenzhen: Update 4/20/2016: We pushed our HR to go into the Labor FEC office and ask directly, phones calls never worked and we found that the next coming semester 2016 for Native ESL teachers we will have to go and get a flashy authentication stickers from the Chinese embassy in your country or in the country of where you studied and get it placed on a notarized copy of our degree, the same for TEFL's and all those worthless certs (Hey I never got a raise due to them.) So she asked: What if your TEFL cert is from London and your Degree is from America? Sorry must go or mail these two different documents to the Chinese consulates in those two different countries. (What a vacation or UPS?)

 

These are the steps:

 

Step 1. Must get your university to notarize a copy of your degree.

Step 2. Take this notarized copy to the Chinese embassy in your country and ask for authentication service for about $100, depends.

Step 3. Book your flight back to China.

 

Now I know some of us can mail this and ask our folks back home to help us, but some can't. Good luck to all, I hope you are asking for a raise. Our HR asked us to prepare now, so we are gathering together to ask for a raise or leave.

ironman510:

What does the authentication sticker look like? 1. it's square. /2. color is mint green background./ 3. Chinese red round symbol at the top in the center. /4. At the bottom is a reflective flashy circular sticker with the same symbol as the top symbol, only this flashy circle is connected to half of the square and half of the notarized degree copy. 

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Update: If your TEFL is from the Chinese GOV TEFL course system you don't need to get it authenticated.

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Thanks for the update

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Bill, strange things afoot at the Circle K. This should be an bodacious year to say the least.

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What if my degree is from Taiwan? There is no Chinese consulate or embassy here...

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@Chris getting your degree notarized in Chinese by your university should be enough but to make it full proof Hong Kong can do it for you becuase its apart of China.

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Not the seal, but feast your eyes on the squared shaped sticker with the round flashy sticker, that's what we all need.

ironman510:

For Americans this site can help you get started.

 

http://www.chinesenotary.com/document-authentication-apostle.html

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icnif77:

Is there difference on diploma authentication requirement, if apply for new FEC (new Z) or renew it (FT in China)? Also, does auth. requirement apply to degree scans only or original diploma must be authenticated too?

Send rep back to FEB to clear the mattersurprise. Please!

I am still waiting for FEC cancel cert. to see what's going on in Guizhou. By the end of this week, I'll dial Henan FEB with complaint about FEC cancel cert.

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ironman510:

No difference, all documents must have this sticker before they are accepted by the FEC office when applying for a new FEC booket, and or New Z visa's and renewals.. Oh this where the sucky part comes in, your university, Country or State will have a way to notarize the degree first by making a copy of it and signing it or maybe the State or your University might give you a document notarized stating that your degree is real than you go to the Chinese embassy and have it authenticated. ..

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Zethe:

Are there any agencies you can mail the degree to and they will do everything for you?

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do they now actually try to get rid of every foreign teacher? who will do this hassle to "teach" in a shit hole for peanuts.

Fun times, awesome country

ironman510:

They think the 5 week Holiday starting in July is enough time for teachers to go home and handle this matter.  This will really cause a lot of hassle for teachers in July. I'm speaking for Guangdong province.

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dom87:

ah right, i forget they will they you: We pay already your air ticket! So what's the matter?

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ironman510:

Yeah because 40% of schools offer plane tickets home as a end of contract bonus in July, so China might be banking on keeping 30%_40% of teachers, than opening the doors to locals or IB teachers.

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icnif77:

My School is organizing (and fishing me for) 25-days Summer Camp in Singapore this June.

Rest of the summer recess trip to India, Vietnam is planned already.

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The answer is - yes.

 

They're even looking at trying to replace foreign IELTS examiners, by firstly having Chinese examiners, and secondly by replacing IELTS itself with a Chinese test of English... that's going to be REALLY funny!

 

And you can bet they're going to be all "you hurt China feelings" when the rest of the world doesn't accept it as equal to TOEFL, IELTS and PET...!

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