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Q: Has anyone who is teaching, or has taught in China taught anywhere else?
Alas, where?
I fancy two places in time.
South America: Colombia, Chile, Brazil, Ecuador (in that order)
Or
Czech Republic, Slovakia or Ukraine.
Also, Germany is a strong consideration due to my intermediate German skills.
Answers on a postcard, please (and also below).
Cheers.
I am interested to see what salaries were like, the cost of living, and the general experience there.
10 years 35 weeks ago in Teaching & Learning - China
Chile is great. It is still a rather open market down there. You will need one full-time job and a part-time to cover cost of living and be able to save some money.
Santiago has changed from a rather tawdry polluted large provincial South American city to a polluted intereresting vibrant South American capital. You must be inurred to earthquakes, however. It's Tokyo but 100 times worse.
Forget Argentina. BA is a stunningly beautiful city but it's impossible to make it there on ESL. And the paperwork is daunting.
Everyone I ever knew who worked in the Ukraine had horror tales to share.
Prague is a jewel of a city but the competition is intense and the marketplace is limited.
I did a year in Indonesia before coming to china. The salary is less than what you'll make in china (¥5,000) but it does go way further, the banking laws are less strict there and foreigners can get a credit card ($800-$1,200).
if you're in Jakarta then the traffic is busy but you're just a couple of hours away from beautiful beaches.
i worked at EF when I did my time there and the great thing was every weekend you didn't work. It's all daytime and evenings so our house often would rent a car/driver and head off into the jungle or to a beach etc.
if I ever decide to move out of china (and I may) then indo will be a top choice for me.
You are right about the Ukraine, everyone I know has had a terrible time there.
One guy I know even had three guys threaten him with a hammer at a party then forced him to get his head shaved. Not one for the list I feel.
I did a bit of teaching in the Navy, don't think that counts though.
Kosovo was one that was desperate for teachers when I was looking a while back. Though when I was going to go, Serbia kicked off and there were riots. So I cancelled.
Not sure what the position in Germany is but I friends of mine have done both France and Spain (maybe not in the current economic climate)
Indonesia or Thailand might be your best bets.
If you have some proper certification though, you could land a job in Australia. There are many ESL places there. (So I hear)
Ecuador is an awesome place but the salary is terrible and you'd be hard pushed to get a working visa.
Prague is nice and close to home, you can even go back for the weekend!
Rin:
If I had a degree I'd definitely be in Japan. If I was a certified teacher, I would be in Hong Kong.
I've taught (briefly) in Thailand (don't! beautiful country, terrible market), Vietnam (highly recommended), as a corporate trainer to Europeans and now back home in Australia.
My favourite was Vietnam, but I make a lot more money back home.
I taught in Japan, and Korea. China by far has been the best, at least in Shenzhen due to the balance of the cost of living and having HK near by., I know it's not the same in other cities.
Left Korea, too quiet and very very naughty kids and too many beautiful girls knocking on my door.
Japan, well you know, can't save a dime out there, but loved it.
can probably speak about the german position
unless you have a master degree in an international recognized (germany) university in EDUCATION and you speak german on at least C1 level you are not allowed to teach in any real school. Teaching positions are also only given out and paid by the government and for long term not short term.
the only "school" i could see you teaching without these requirements would be "Volkshochschule" but thats for hobby students like my mum how just wanna learn a bit english.
btw we also dont have education centers.
Highly xenophobic South Korea. Ironman510 is correct about it being boring and some/many of the youth and adults are quite rude,ridiculous,arrogant and disrespectful.
On the other hand, I did meet and get to know some that were kind,friendly and helpful. I was also lucky in that most of my employers were pretty good/okay. I didn't experience any of the HORROR stories that so many foreign teachers have experienced there.
I enjoyed SK,,, dunno why peeps are griping about it.... oh well,,, this place we call the World is full of a-holes & cool dudes... luck of the dice....