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Q: Have any other websites for non native speaker to find job in china?
It seems very difficult to find a job in china nowadays
14 weeks 4 days ago in Business & Jobs - China
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It's not the website, but the Law all the countries around the world have in place, ... i.e. only English speaking countries born residents can legally teach English language.
You can apply across the web, but ... it's going to be a hard uphill battle ...
See this one:
https://answers.echinacities.com/question/visa-applications-canceled-if-...
icnif77:
Here ... job websites in China ranked, mind you:
https://www.jobsitechina.com/12-most-popular-job-websites-in-China.htm
Azriaphale760493:
Recently I've noticed an upsurge in schools recruiting non-native speakers. Of course, these are technically illegal, but the employers don't care (what's a 10K fine when you can pay a Russian 'Marketing Manager' 15K, rather than an American 'English Teacher' 25K. I'm afraid it's starting to look like Native English Speakers have priced themselves out of the market expecting 25-30K (Yes, this is the salary they SHOULD get to work here, considering the fees schools are charging students, but... see above) - If non-native speakers are willing to knowingly work illegally for schools that are willingly employing illegally - same old China. It'll l give the local PSB brownie points whenever they arrest and deport another batch of illegally working foreigners... win-win for everyone here except the poor S.O.B.'s that got told by Agents and Employers that Family Visa/Business Visa/Student Visa/Self Employed Visa is OK for teaching in a Kindergarten.
Spiderboenz:
There are a few ways that a NNES can legally teach in China. 1. Their degrees are from universities in recognized NES countries. 2. They are a subject teacher with a legitimate teaching certification in their home country. 3. They are a highly accomplished academic (category A) in their field and are invited to lecture at a university.
icnif77:
@Spider ... and missing part I see is:
"5. They qualify for an initial flight .... he he .. at Cape Canaveral Space Kosmodrom ..."
You can tell, I've been to Russia ...
These are an old requirements (pre -2017) for non-NES ..., so nothing new here.
I'd say, non-English native teachers fell of the employer's radar as soon as passport file is reviewed. Not too many employers are aware of these exemptions for non-NES teachers.
In my time in China, looking for a new position was like a part-time job. 2-3 h every single day, sending CVs ...
@Azriaphale760493 ... yeah, that's a grey area, but who knows how many SOBs got deported.
I tried as an illegal at my English teaching start in China myself in 2009/10, but employers will take an advantage of you 'cause they know you're working with the wrong visa, i. e. no protection from the authority, and-o no harm to the employer ...
I contacted SAFEA first time while working with F visa in Lin'an near Hangzhou, Helen Group was the employer. They could extend 90-days F visa in some 2 hours time, with my passport in hand and me not exiting the classroom. Talking about hefty guanxi ... here.
In the end, SAFEA mustered Helen Group to get me under Z visa.
Just imagine, you (NESs) would teach language you weren't born into ...
I tell you, it's an easy life for a NES in China ... from the perspective of a non-NES with lengthy ET experience.
https://thecontentauthority.com/blog/how-to-use-have-has-had-in-a-sentence
It's not the website, but the Law all the countries around the world have in place, ... i.e. only English speaking countries born residents can legally teach English language.
You can apply across the web, but ... it's going to be a hard uphill battle ...
See this one:
https://answers.echinacities.com/question/visa-applications-canceled-if-...
icnif77:
Here ... job websites in China ranked, mind you:
https://www.jobsitechina.com/12-most-popular-job-websites-in-China.htm
Azriaphale760493:
Recently I've noticed an upsurge in schools recruiting non-native speakers. Of course, these are technically illegal, but the employers don't care (what's a 10K fine when you can pay a Russian 'Marketing Manager' 15K, rather than an American 'English Teacher' 25K. I'm afraid it's starting to look like Native English Speakers have priced themselves out of the market expecting 25-30K (Yes, this is the salary they SHOULD get to work here, considering the fees schools are charging students, but... see above) - If non-native speakers are willing to knowingly work illegally for schools that are willingly employing illegally - same old China. It'll l give the local PSB brownie points whenever they arrest and deport another batch of illegally working foreigners... win-win for everyone here except the poor S.O.B.'s that got told by Agents and Employers that Family Visa/Business Visa/Student Visa/Self Employed Visa is OK for teaching in a Kindergarten.
Spiderboenz:
There are a few ways that a NNES can legally teach in China. 1. Their degrees are from universities in recognized NES countries. 2. They are a subject teacher with a legitimate teaching certification in their home country. 3. They are a highly accomplished academic (category A) in their field and are invited to lecture at a university.
icnif77:
@Spider ... and missing part I see is:
"5. They qualify for an initial flight .... he he .. at Cape Canaveral Space Kosmodrom ..."
You can tell, I've been to Russia ...
These are an old requirements (pre -2017) for non-NES ..., so nothing new here.
I'd say, non-English native teachers fell of the employer's radar as soon as passport file is reviewed. Not too many employers are aware of these exemptions for non-NES teachers.
In my time in China, looking for a new position was like a part-time job. 2-3 h every single day, sending CVs ...
@Azriaphale760493 ... yeah, that's a grey area, but who knows how many SOBs got deported.
I tried as an illegal at my English teaching start in China myself in 2009/10, but employers will take an advantage of you 'cause they know you're working with the wrong visa, i. e. no protection from the authority, and-o no harm to the employer ...
I contacted SAFEA first time while working with F visa in Lin'an near Hangzhou, Helen Group was the employer. They could extend 90-days F visa in some 2 hours time, with my passport in hand and me not exiting the classroom. Talking about hefty guanxi ... here.
In the end, SAFEA mustered Helen Group to get me under Z visa.
Just imagine, you (NESs) would teach language you weren't born into ...
I tell you, it's an easy life for a NES in China ... from the perspective of a non-NES with lengthy ET experience.
Well he isn't saying he is looking for English teaching job either. Also,outside of Tier 1 cities, law sounds bit different, from what I heard and seen. There are a lot of legally hired non-natives English teachers, out there in Tier 2-3 cities.
Most of them times better as a teachers than "Native".
icnif77:
It was edited soon after the first reply ...
There is one single Labour law in China for the whole country and all employers must follow the same rules to legally employ laowai ...
Bestest (mine, of course ...
) search engine with :"English teaching jobz for non-native English sneakers" in search with 21 different websites posting job openings:
https://outandbeyond.com/non-native-english-teacher-jobs/
Can't miss with 'Indeed'
https://www.indeed.com/q-Non-Native-English-Teachers-jobs.html
Online jobs for non-English natives:
https://www.goodairlanguage.com/non-native/#google_vignette
Good luck!
icnif77:
... more ...
https://jooble.org/jobs-non-native-english-teacher/China
Whole Asia:
https://teast.co/jobs/china
https://www.chinateachjobs.com/job-tag/non-native-jobs/
https://premiertefl.com/blog/english-teaching-jobs-in-china/
https://www.career-jet.cn/english-non-native-teacher-jobs
https://www.glassdoor.com/Job/china-english-teacher-jobs-SRCH_IL.0,5_IN48_KO6,21.htm
Non-English native passport holder cannot get legal English teaching job in China unless she/he holds BA completed in a native English country (UK, USA, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and S. Africa).
