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Q: How to handle sexual harassment in China?

There's this associate where I work that keeps talking when looking at my cleavage and make those nasty remarks. Most of the men I met so far were ultra shy, but this one is a misogynist pig. I know I can't punch him in the face, even thought it would teach him a lesson. Can I just file a complain at the police for sexual harassment? It's really frustrating because he is a big client for our company. My boss call him a "necessary evil", but I'm on the verge of cracking.

12 years 39 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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Are you illiterate on top of everything else?

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12 years 39 weeks ago
 
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Back in your day, people were more literate, right? And back in your day, you could beat your wife because your steak was overcooked. Back in your days, youngsters would bow their heads to whatever an old geezer would say.

Well it's not back in your days anymore, so let people live their life and go reenact your old days in your home

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LOL you do not know squat about me or my life. You also lack common sense.

Let me give you a small sample of your arrogance and ignorance -

You claimed I was studying law. I teach law in one of China's Ivy League Universities.

Oh the brashness of youth. You are not fit for China but you are going to have to learn that the hard way. You just do not want to listen to anyone so why post questions here?

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your mistake again, Martin. People here give very good answers. Others, like you, are elitist to the point where they have to brag about their diplomas to prove a point. go have your little power trips with your student, Martin, here is not the place.

and again, back to karma. you want something terrible to happen to me, right? is hating your only reason to live? hate more, Martin, hate more. I'm glad you believe you'll live a few years more thanks to your hate toward me. but a thanks would be appreciated

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I have never even given the slightest indication that I wanted anything bad to happen to you.

Are you really that much in need of psychological help?

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psychological help? i remember clearly you told me you cannot seek psychological help in China, that suicide was your only option...

So now you want me to commit suicide? You're even more hardcore than i imagined, Martin!

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You have your panties so twisted you can't see or think straight.

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is it a catchphrase you learn to your students? maybe you recycled into teaching because you never won a trial? or were you a prosecutor, just for the thrill of sending someone to the death row? so many questions, yet so little answers...

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Being in China for only a few weeks you were audacious to suggest what China needed, don't you think?

You were in China for only a few weeks and "on the verge of cracking"?

Slow down, settle in, observe and listen. Stop mouthing off about that which you no nothing.

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And back to that Confucius thingy. The movie was really good, i'll give you that. And if you recall correctly, i didn't say what China needed, I voiced my opinion.

But according to you, an expat has no right to say anything unless he or she hasn't been there for more than 30 years.

Well tough luck for you, Mr Me-Here-In-China-For-Longer-So-You-Cannot-Contradict-Me, I'm as entitled as you are to give my opinion.

Keep the hate coming, I know you can do better. Or maybe you're not used to people responding to your bullying?

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12 years 39 weeks ago
 
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REPEAT:

Just cover up

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I don't walk about at work with my biceps bulging or my dong hanging out my flies, but IF I DID, I would expect people to look.

So if you dress with your cleavage on display you too should EXPECT PEOPLE TO LOOK, because men are naturally attracted to that.

If you saw a guy at work with his willy hanging out his trousers you would definitely look, there is no denying that. So why shouldn't men look at your cleavage?

For christ sakes stop trying to have the moral high ground because you've already lost. Just cover up like 99% of every other colleague in the workplace. Just because you're western it doesn't give you authority to dress like a slut. If you DO choose to dress like a slut, expect consequences.

Good day.

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Pistu,

You are a women with good physical appeal. Take that to your advantage and miss lead this sexual freak in order to gain that valuable client relationship

What Martin failed to tell you is that business is business.
Set aside your discomfort and enter hes dark side to play with hes mind.
At some point you may even like it! (to be used only in business with creeps)
Show that cleavage, that tush and smile!

Go get 'em girl! Cool

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You're obviously very proud of your body, which is why you flaunt it in the office.

I'm guessing the real problem is not the leering, which probably turns you on, but the nasty comments he makes which make you feel like a prostitute.

My advice? Tell him if he keeps spewing his nasty comments, you won't dress so scantily anymore. He'll shut up and keep staring, which is what attention whores like yourself want.

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12 years 37 weeks ago
 
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Even here in the Great White North Cdn I see sexually herassment, usually her ass not mine, but this is how I handle sexually herassment, it is not reported never,, however i do grade it, nothing below a 2 is worthwhile Wink Wink

TedDBayer:

I think this is funny, how come I didn't get more votes?

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You brought it on yourself. Chinese already naturally stare at foreigners, so if on top of that you openly reveal your coconuts (which are very likely larger than your female counterparts') to the guys, you deserve whatever you're getting.

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Ask him for a drink after work, wait until he goes to the loo and then spike it with laxatives. Wait 10 minutes and suggest he walk you back to your apartment several miles away - when he inevitably craps himself, laugh yourself hysterical and watch him slink away never to hassle you again.

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Back home something like that wouldn't pass, but then you're not back home. I haven't been to China yet, but I assume the rules there are not the same, and my gut instinct says it's probably a lot less strict Wink

Cover those sexy curves, girl, or be ready to accept the macho comments.

Also - LOL at AngryPenguin's idea...brilliant!!!

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Have you ever just said to his face to stop staring or you'll slap him? That'll probably actually stop him coz he wont want to lose (a peice of) face...

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You can sue him if you have evidence. There is relative law about sexual harassment. The hard part is the evidence.

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When you see him always look at his hair. Eventually he will realize and will feel uncomfortable. At first he will touch it casually and then ever more so nervously. Every single time you see him do not take your eyes off his hair. He will turn in circles trying to see what you are looking at. He will become so self conscious he will forget about your breasts and let the other guys look when you are not watching.

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Like others said, either cover up or ignore it. I'd want to say something like "Keep looking buddy, because that's the furthest you'll ever get." It's true. He acts like he's tough, but he's a coward. No matter what he says, he probably wouldn't dare to touch you. I'm sure that if he did, you'd be justified in punching him, then crotch stomping him until you're sure he can never have children. Now that I've been here a while, I'm used to just ignoring everybody staring at me, but obvious harassment is different. Sorry that it's happening to you. Think of something to say that is painful to his ego.

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Men look at breasts. Especially in China, for it is not in their culture to wear dresses that reveal the breasts, so of course he's going to act perverted like that. Just like a lot of westerners stare at women in those ultra short short; It's a new flavor and you want a lick Tongue

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I agree with Martin.  He has actually given you the best advice in my opinion.  Cover up and suck it up.  If you can't take it, grow some balls and risk losing your job.

 

You need to clarify if this is a client spokesman or actually the client.  I think if it is spokesman you can make him lose face and that will most likely solve it.  But one thing to consider is if you do anything to harm this clients reputation(lose face) it will also harm your company's.  Which is why I think your company is scared to pursue any kind of action.  This ain't Kansas anymore.  Chinese love hiding problems than rather solving them.

 

If it is actually the client, then be prepared to lose your job.  If you are brave enough you would have to set an example for other women to follow in China.  I agree with Martin that this will most likely accomplish nothing if your pursue this through the court system.  So what you need to do is gain public support and pursue this through the courts, which is really risky.  How you can do this... Use the internet, make it public (post the evidence, use weibo) anything to put  this man's (Company's) face at risk of losing face.

 

To be honest, I just think you are venting, which is good.  Just don't expect any crazy answer that you don't know of already.

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For sexual harassment you usually have to go up the chain of command. Talk first to your immediate supervisor. If he cannot help you go to the person above him and if that doesn't work out keep going higher and higher. You may have to go to the CEO of the company but if you think you are getting sexually harassed and it is physical go get a lawyer. In most companies sexual harassment is not tolerated and it doesn't matter who they are they will be received the same punishment if there is a just law. Don't wait! Get it done fast! If you let somebody get away with it they will keep doing it! You wouldn't let a killer kill somebody and get away with it would you? They would kill again and you will feel guilty afterwards!

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