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Q: How much can an expact make in shanghai chinese company? with a master degree.

I wanna know if an expact working in Chinese companies  can make more than Chinese . same job same degree. Master degree.

The story is i just finished my studies and going to get a job here in shanghai. But i would like to know if foreigners have specifics advantages than Chinese workers.salary, housing, assurance...

11 years 36 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - Shanghai

 
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Rather depends what the company does. If it's investment banking or nuclear fusion, quite a lot. If it's making tea bags I wouldn't expect a huge salary.

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I think you will also need experience and proven results, not just a degree. China is also pushing for more Chinese to take on the jobs, and less foreigners. Mandarin is also required for many jobs now.

 

Also, I think the idea that foreigners make more than Chinese is a myth. With grey money, Chinese probably make far more.

 

EDIT: Also, a masters degree from a western university is worth far more than a masters degree from a Chinese university, so that is an unfair comparison.

mArtiAn:

  It's certainly not a myth in terms of the teaching profession, which accounts for a huge percentage of the foreigner workforce. Not to say that the foreign teachers in China are 'professionals' per se (you don't mind me calling you Percy, do you?), but they certainly make a hell of a lot more cash than their Chinese colleagues.

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It's quite common for local teachers to take cash gifts for higher marks, or answers to tests. This generally pushes the amount they make to higher than the FT salary.

 

As example, one of my class mates at uni in Australia worked in a language school for three years to save enough to do her masters degree in Australia. Uni fees alone were A$22,000 (CNY140,000), plus double that amount again for living expenses for a year. That means she saved at least CNY400,000 in three years on a teacher's salary. There were four other Chinese teachers in the class with similar stories, then consider the amount of teachers at other unis in Australia, and other countries.

 

FT's salaries are ridiculously low compared to other expats, but as you point out, there are many non-professionals working in the industry, which keeps the salaries low.

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First of all, you need to learn how to write a sentence in English! Okay? How much can an expat/expatriate/foreign expatriate make in a Shanghai Chinese company with a Master's Degree?

 

Class is over

"expact"..lol lol Smile

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Unless you have a specialised degree you won't make more than the locals and you probably won't get any job. Do you speak Mandarin? Have an engineering degree? 

Your options are limited, and as other mentioned, your writing leaves much to be desired.

mArtiAn:

  Yeh, i'm guessing that degree's not in English.....not that i've got a degree myself or anything, but.....

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bill8899:

I hear you, but he/she has a master's. That suggests a lengthy thesis and doing well on the GRE or a British equivalent. At any rate we may never know.

 

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Traveler:

The OP doesn't say he/she is an expat, just seems to be concerned that expats might make more than a Chinese person. However, the comparison of Chinese degree to western degree is not a fair test.

 

It seems obvious that this is not a native English speaker, though that doesn't discount other foreign nationality. I suspect, however, it is a Chinese person.

 

Not many expats work for Chinese companies, teaching being one notable exception, because (generally) of low wages, unrealistic expectations and poor conditions. Most non-teachers work for foreign companies in China. The OP is only considering working for a Chinese company.

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bill8899:

Traveler: Yes, I missed the clues, it's probably not a native speaker. I thought it was a westerner who though he could just show up with a master's and make good money, whatever that amounts to. Extraordinarily unlikely.

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Shining_brow:

Also, quite possible the OP is an expat... but not from a native English speaking country. Thus, s/he could be asking about a Master's degree from... Somalia, or Philippines, or Saudi Arabia, or some other unknown university (and unknown standards)*. And, I'm guessing that's what the deal is.

 

 

(*not saying those countries don't have good universities... just saying the don't get high up in the world university rankings and entry and pass requirements are unknown...).

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bill8899:

Another good point. It may be a Chinese master's in who knows what? They seem to be in Shanghai now so I guess it may be a Chinese degree. At any rate, it's no magic ticket for any position in China.

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Not going to sugar coat it for you. Your chances are low if no chance at all. I work for a major company in China and HR get emails everyday from people just like yourself who think they are better than the rest for the reason you have a masters speak english and it means you automatically get a job.
Will also add that directors for major companies Chinese and Expats their is little salary difference between them.Also does your masters teach you for example the ins and outs of Chinese Banks or Engineering to name a few? My guess is no. Expats working in China have built up years of experience and knowledge to apply to the business in China.

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It depends on what you have your masters degree in. Under water basket weaving brings you 10RMB per hour. Franck3

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A lot will also depend on the universitiy's name on that Master's degree... if it says 'Oxford University', or 'MIT' or something, then yes, it will give you more money.

 

If it's from 'Miskatonic University', you'd better be doing some really dark stuff, or it won't mean a hell of a lot!

 

However, a Master's in a relevant field to English teaching can double or treble your pay in some good universities and school... but the competition is pretty stiff!

 

In most other fields, that piece of paper on its own won't do a lot... having quite a few years experience (back home) will! (again, depending on the field)

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it depends on different situation. how many years work experience do you have? what is your salary expedition . if you want to work with Chinese company. i think you won;t make that much. the Chinese couldn't make that much in foreign company. the same thing

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