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Q: If you were offered a sick "guanxi" job, would you take it?

I'm talkin high prestige, ladies swooning, massive salary, etc.

 

BUT...

 

not actually learning anything. Probably won't help you finding a job when you return home.

11 years 39 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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Hell yea i would

Large salary, girls swooning and prestige !!!!!! who wouldn't

Even if it didn't last long, at least i lived the dream for a short time.

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That depends what you value most. People in different ages may have varied goals and planning. Follow your heart and make a rational analysis. It is you who are solely responsible for your own future.

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I wouldn't..  I'd leave it for the people (foreigners or not) that really need such a job.  I much prefer a job that is intellectually stimulating / difficult..

 

 

 

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Ah yes

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I could take it.
"learning anything", and intellectual skills leaving for homework and spare time Wink

I don't have to have job that "looks good in papers", because I'm on the job market for a while already, and that kind of job - if it gives prestige, it also gives another guanxi....

and You know... here is a land of guanxi, and it will be for many years... Wink

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Hell yea i would

Large salary, girls swooning and prestige !!!!!! who wouldn't

Even if it didn't last long, at least i lived the dream for a short time.

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I'll pass on the ladies swooning, but yeah, I'd take a job like that. Teaching English didn't get me anywhere as far as my resume goes, so why would it matter? The prestige doesn't matter to me either, but a nice paycheck would be great.

crimochina:

why did you get thumbed down?

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I don't care. It's not like I'm collecting points, or that I'm very active on here anymore. Cheers. indecision

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@Crimo:The "thumbs-down" crowd is out again, and on a lot of answers, if it doesn't  specifically praise China or adheres to a different opinion, you get one.

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Can anyone explain to me what kind of jobs are these? What is exactly the activity one have to do by "sick guanxi job"? Thanks!

 

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hey! i would also take that job,there is always something to experience and with that also is somethin to try and enjoy the time! lol

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absolutely

 

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If it was in China, the probably yes. I assume I wouldn't need to be qualified and little actual work would need to be done, so I would have income, likely an Audi Q7, and freedom to work on something that matters to me. 

 

Back home, I have always used my network when looking for jobs, but always been hired on my qualifications. I've seen people who have been put in a position due to kissing of the lower back, and although a fancy title and good salary can be nice, burning out with stress because you are trying to lift more than you can will never be worth it. 

MrTibbles:

Huge difference in networking back home - knowing people helps get you in places, but doesn't guarantee anything. Skills, qualifications, attitude, etc. actually matter.

 

Here, you'll find someone with zero skills with a high level job because his mom's cousin's brother's former roommate owes someone a favor and guanxi gets called in.  I know this happens to an extent everywhere, but not to the level it does here - and I mean it happens here with jobs that REQUIRE skills to do.

 

"I work at a nuclear power plant"

"Really, my brother needs a job."

"Does he know anything about nuclear power or physics?"

"No, he has an MBA in fraud though."

"Oh, no, you need to be highly trained for this."

"GUANXI'D!!!!!!111111"

"He can start tomorrow."

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Amonk:

In this way, I think American children understand the Chinese job market pretty well through the concept of "Chinese cutting". Does anyone remember that? It's when you're in a line, and you let someone cut ahead of you- except it's Chinese style, so they go directly behind you instead. It says to the people behind you "this guy doesn't have a good enough reason to go in front of me, but he sure as Hell is good enough to go in front of all of you".

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Hmmm... maybe, but tthere is the chance that having one would meanyou are indebted to the person that gave it to you, and sans just up and leaving for good, you might screw yourself if you ever planned on doing something else you wanted

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You can find a way for anything to be career related. At least, when you're a 22 year old polisci major you can... you have to...  Actually, I really like teaching but having taught kindergarten, middle school, and high school I must say that the only teaching I really really enjoy is at the university level. The lecture/seminar/discussion setups are far preferable to the template classroom one, for my style. I haven't decided whether I want to go into teaching as a career or become a practitioner in the Chinese affairs arena. Someone help me decide!

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i will take it as a stepping stone, especially when you don't have any job yet.

at least you got salary every month. at that time you may try to find the other job.

 

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Depends how many strings are attached.

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