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Q: Is it a given that salary increases when signing on for another year?

Opinions and experiences with this issue welcomed.

If both parties are happy and there hasn't been any dramas then is a salary increase reasonable when signing on for another year?

Have you done/tried this before?

What happened?

 

 

 

 

 

5 years 46 weeks ago in  Teaching & Learning - China

 
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i know at private schools its almost automatic.  when it comes to government schools and universities, they won't mention anything.  normally they have a budget for the foreigner's salary.  sometimes they can't or won't be willing to raise it.  but where there is a will, there's a way.  i've found through my personal experiences, that you can always ask for other "benefits."  for example, a raise in the travel expense, living costs, food allowance, etc.  a few government schools here were unwilling to raise the salary for a few foreigners here recently.  the foreigners assumed if they held fast and demanded the increase for the new contract, the school would give in.  the school didn't.  they found new foreigners to replace them.  so be careful.  but if you do a good job at your school, and the students and faculty recognize it, i'm sure they will do what it takes to keep you if it's reasonable. 

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It should be but it's not a given. Hence, I didn't sign a new contract with the training school I was at.

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  Nothing's given, but if you're popular with your students, you have something to negotiate with.

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What do you make compared to other teachers you work with? If anyone is making more than you then it shouldnt be an issue, if you push and they refuse then you miht need to look inward a bit cuz you know theyll pay that kind of money.

If your already the highest paid or close, itll be more difficult but possible as your making the most already so you must be valuable. It does create problems if the teachers have too much of a gap so they might resist, but should cave.

Also, i know everything thinks they deserve a million per month, but you should look at the situation. Do you really feel like you deserve more? What value do you bring that others couldnt, look at the schools situation andndecide if you should even ask.

I have gotten one after every year, but last time i signed up for a great contract and in reality did far less work then expected for my salary. My contract is also up and its a given i will stay,
but i would feel super uncomfortable and undeserving asking for more money now.

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Public sector teaching jobs don't give a damn when it comes to renewal time.  You could be the best teacher in the world, and if they feel like no raise, then there will be no raise.  It's just all a shoot of the dice with this one but even the best case scenario is a not a great one by Western standards.

 

If you want decent raises, then stay in the private sector with all of the angst that that brings.  If you want some kind of stability, and I mean only, some kind, then stick with the public sector and in most cases wages less than the average day worker in China currently makes.

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Mate, I am in the private sector and I renegotiate my contract every year and I get a raise. Because we have an overtime clause the other way around a raise is negotiating less working hours. For example, we start here at 25 hours a week after which time you get paid 100RMB an hour. So I after 3 years I am at 21 hours plus a raise. There are a couple of teachers here who get a bit of overtime, about 5 hours a week and that equates to 2000RMB a month which, in my opinion, is substantially more than what they might have got as a raise. One teacher last year was working 42 hours a week due to a teacher shortage and that's about 7000RMB a month for him!

Good luck. I tend not to be greedy and am thankful that my working hours are around 17 - 20 a week and temper my request for more money based on those hours!

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No.

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No, I worked for my company for 5 years, every year got 200 for the salary added on and 100 added for the attendance bonus, but after the 5th year my boss said: "sorry there's a salary limit.", I was pissed inside but happy with the job security, friends, school and working visa.

 

An old saying: Don't become to expensive for your company, because you'll be the first to go.

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Not a given but usually stipulated in the contract. Regardless I would approach other teachers at your school (foreign teachers) and ask them if they got one or not. Some schools it's a 10% raise others it's based on performance, just be prepared to hear the sob story that the school isn't doing so well and there are fewer and fewer students. My advice, if you are a good teacher without complaints from students/parents, is to find another school that pays equal->more, if the school doesn't give you a decent raise tell them you will leave, worked well for me a couple of times. Just DO NOT bluff, in China it tends to backfire sometimes.

 

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If I had to increase the expenses on my budget concerning employees. I would be very careful about who I offer wage increases. Profits and/or budgets. Wage increases are not a given.  Have you noticed that the gap between what an FT makes and the starting salary of Uni grad has narrowed alot in the past few years.  The supply of FTs has grown in the Eastern provinces and continues to be short in the western provinces.  My opinion is that you must ask for, and justify, your request. And don't wait until the last moment.  The schools look at one major factor; What do your students think of you and your ability?

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