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Q: Should I humiliated him publicly or just walk away?

I was in the Christmas market, an New Zealand man tried to touch my body. I was so mad, should I humilate him publicly or just walk away?

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He was probably just trying to push you out of the way.

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grasp him by the 'nads,,, then say,, hmmm,, no thanks,, I prefer my Men with a serious Baby Maker ~

 

Viki,, how did you know he was a New Zeandite?  Did he have a picture of a kangaroo on his shirt?  oh,, my bad,, that's that other place down there....

icnif77:

Get in touch!

Kiwi is New Zealander, from family of Apterygidae ...  

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haha,,, I always thought Kiwi was some sorta fruit !

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Fruit got name after the animal and then  people followed soon after ...Where're all (people) Kiwis anyway?

Here Gaa-goo-gle:

The name derives from the kiwi, a native flightless bird, which is a national symbol of New Zealand. Until the First World War, the kiwi represented the country and not the people. But by 1917 the people were also being called "Kiwis", supplanting other nicknames.

It took WW to nicky them .... he he. Today is Dec 17th, you 'Kiwi' you, he he he.

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Vicki, you mean a man could not control himself around you because of your beautiful butt and stunning beauty, perhaps it was your fault for being drop dead gorgeous or maybe he was drunk

Viki87:

He's putting his hand near my butt, fuck him. How come it is my fault? I hate you saying that, I got touched then you blame me for looking good to get touched? Fuck you.

 

I really hate man likes you, blame women for getting touched because the women look attractive.

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chill viki, chill,,,,  u r too defensive,,, i read the comment as nice, funny, and playful...  a word of advice which u should have picked-up on by now...  the guys on this board are going to be irreverent and pull your ponytail sometimes,,, yeah,,, we like u to fight back,, but don't go 100% ape-shit.  ok?  cool

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It was a compliment Vicki, all in good fun, I hope I can buy you a drink in Shanghai sometime and I am not a "butt" guy, so you want catch me looking anyway. As you know, you always brag about your "butt", maybe it's just too fine for human viewing, they can trim it down a little in Korea to keep the men away.

 

Chinese really need to get a sense of humor and a semester of sarcasm before you talk to a western human. Vicki saying your "drop dead gorgeous" is a compliment I have never said to my 2 former wives or the present wench as well, and I have no idea what your appearance is, relax drink some wine and get a handsome gay or blind guy to give you a massage and life will be great again. Merry Christmas

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Next time someone tries this, Look them dead in the eye with a smile and say "you know if you are so pathetic that you can't get a piece at home from your mother or sister, I can sell you a blow up doll from Japan because most of them look just like me, but trust me, you could never afford the real thing".

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Pretentious crappola in need of medical attention! Psychiatrist with pills handy would be the best solution, IMO! 

 

I am keep thinking, how could I make posters ignore this spewing sack of manure and .... how did we deserve to be part of this lunacy.

 

 

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He probably confused your butt for a sheeps... 

Stiggs:

... or his car.

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If he was a Kiwi ( and how do you know that by the way? ) he probably grew up on a dairy farm. Those guys slap arses every time they're walking through a herd to get them to move out of the way.

 

I wouldn't be offended if I were you, he would have done it without thinking.

 

Did he say something like 'morning number 37' ?

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there is no excuse for a woman being intentionally groped.

so if this happened, why did you not speak out at the time?

you are vocal enough trashing everyone else you know in your life online Viki, so how come you did not say something at the time?

 

However, i would like a few things clarified.

how did you know this guy was a kiwi?

Even I have difficulty sometimes distinguishing between some of the Aussi and Kiwi accents and i am a native speaker..

Did this guy announce his nationality to you?

 

and then there is the fact that you are an unreliable poster.

I recall seeing a post of yours where you brag about making fake posts about things that supposedly happened to you because you were bored.

and you addiction to drama could possibly mean that an accident in a crowded place, where people are pushing each other to get past each other has resulted in accidental contact.

you say 'a New Zealand man tried to touch your body' - did you actually stop him from groping you, in which case the very fact that you stopped him means that he knew that you knew.

did he make a lunge towards you and you stopped him? because believe me a woman would know if a she saw a man fail in attempt to grope her, and he would know that he had been stopped.

 

by consistently using abusive language, about co-workers and even other posters, you are not inspiring any sympathy in anyone.

and if you are a flaky poster, people believe you less and less.

 

i am not in any way a 'victim blamer', but when it comes to the reliability of a poster who has admitted posting fake 'questions' to elicit sympathy, for me it is a case of someone crying 'wolf' once too often.

 

DirkBourne:

Well said.

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Well said indeed. The victim should always be believed. Even if there is a cry wolf history. Because nobody knows what caused the issue. I know women who were abused as kids, and they end up as non functioning people who see themselves only as sex objects. They think that is their whole worth. They place their value in the world as to how good they are at recieving an abusers penis. I know women who have given birth to their own fathers child. I know one in particular who was the result of her grandfather raping her mum, and she also had a child after being raped by her grandfather... And guess what? She allowed her grandfather to look after his great grand daughter while she was out in bars seeking male sexual attention. Abuse is a non stop cycle. If you are abused... stand up and stop it. If you are seeking attention because you brushed your arse against some guys hand... go to a spatial awareness class and learn how to control your arse. Its a complex issue with many levels of victims. All victims should be believed. We should concentrate on helping the high level victims. Those abused as children. I believe you Viki. you were abused... so fucking punch the cunt...stand up for yourself.

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Blondie.... American's have problems telling the difference between Aussies and Poms! (UK)....

 

They've got NO chance identifying between NZ and Aus!

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Blondie_:

@Shining, 

thankfully i am not as bad as some Americans as identifying accents, but it is my lack of exposure to the Aussie/Kiwi accents that make them more challenging to distinguish.

 

Should probably watch more 'Home and Away' (not) !

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Did he pronounce 'pen' as 'pin'? Is that how you could tell?

 

Was he wearing al all blacks shirt?

 

Did he show you his passport before trying to grope you?

 

I smell bullshit again.

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Vicki:

Please visit the following:

Paseo del Prado, beautiful walkway In Madrid, Spain

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"Tried to touch my butt"????

 

That's all you're offering up for people to jump to your defence and tell you what to do??

 

As Blondie said above, your previous posts make you hard to believe. And the lack of substance (in your post, not the one in your personality) makes this one no different.

 

There are many possibilities (including that this is merely from your imagination...), so it's not really worth commenting on specificially....

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If Earth would be flat smiley, I would tell you to 'PUBLICLY WALK AWAY ... till the end of the Earth's crust and jump ...'

 

buTT ... it isn't, so poor Kiwis and all of us on this Board ....

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If it is the same Christmas market that I recall, I know that there are thousands of people queueing for so called christmas snacks and beverages. In such a crowded place, it could have been just an accident. This happens to me on the subway on a daily basis (and I am a guy...)

Viki87:

I said he tried to touch me, did you hear that? I used the word he tried to...

 

He told me his name, he's from New Zealand, and told me that I am beautiful then he ut his hand on my body near my butt. Pervert.

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@ viki, 

again, not 'victim blaming', but you struck up a conversation with a guy to the extent you knew where he came from:

"He told me his name, he's from New Zealand, and told me that I am beautiful "

so it was not some random dude making a grab for you - you actually had a conversation with him and became familiar with his background.

My experience of random Chinese strangers/people is that this is the sort of information they demanded from me (the foreigner), without the social norms of small talk one would normally have, so i can't believe that this guy would randomly volunteer this information without some degree of social situation of a shared coffee/drink (and more than a 5 minute acquaintance).

And it has been my experience that Chinese people are more likely to try touching you - without your permission - than non-Chinese are.

 

I would imagine that there was some encouragement on your part - according to my understanding of your dating history you have had enough foreign bf's (6 -7) to have an idea of how guys behave, so it is not like you are completely new to dealing with foreign men, either sober or drunk.

at this point some degree of understating of other behaviour has usually been gained, and self-behaviour is modified to avoid making the same mistakes.

nor are you averse to encouraging them on short acquaintance:

http://answers.echinacities.com/question/do-you-think-hes-serious-me%EF%BC%9F

 

as i said before, you are not averse to over-dramatising and faking trivia because you are bored.

this guy allegedly tried to touch your butt - which you have been promoting as your 'best feature over the last few years. He didn't actually touch you, but 'tried' (your words), and you said nothing at the time.

Why did you say nothing at the time?

Could he have been reaching for a bag or securing his purchases?

he was obviously close enough to you to make an attempt, which suggests more than a passing conversation.

Again, context is missing.

 

no guy has the right to grope a woman/ put his hands on her without her 'permission' or encouragement/say-so. but the sad reality is that women have to watch their behaviour in order to avoid being in certain situations.

 

Has your experience with your previous foreign 'bf's' taught you nothing?

this guy did not touch you, so what have you learnt about this 'experience'?

Why bitch about this now to people who can do nothing?

Why did you not say something at the time?

 

Again, this is the sort of lame-ass thing that would be laughed at with female friends, as i have shared and laughed at all the lame-ass Chinese guy behaviour - any chinese guy who thought he could try anything got loud derision and mocking from me, not 'after the event' martyrdom. 

you are passive/aggressive enough online and seem to be unable to moderate your behaviour at work, so why not at the time?.

Englteachted:

It seems they were on a date and he made a pass (a bad pass but not random groping). I didn't read the full details, if I'm wrong please correct me. Not surprised she mis-represented what happened.

I was single when I first came to China, Chinese women purposefully send conflicting 'signals'. Many times they brush themselves up against you and are very flirtatious. 

 

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@ Engleteachted

there were NO details as to context, but you are right about the behaviour of Chinese women.

I have seen colleagues actively avoid (if they could) being in a close situation with Chinese women (from the age of 18 years upwards) because their behaviour is sending mixed messages.

These chinese women would even know that the guy was married and they were indifferent to this fact.

 

Understanding of others is seriously lacking in Chinese men and women.
thankfully Chinese men are so laughably pathetic they can be dealt with easily - my close friends have had such a laugh (and so have I) when i recount some of the things i have encountered in China)

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Viki87:

 

I said he tried to touch me, did you hear that? I used the word he tried to...

 

He told me his name, he's from New Zealand, and told me that I am beautiful then he ut his hand on my body near my butt. Pervert.

 

Here's why I have issue with your claim, you said he tried to touch you and you said he touched you. 

 

Near your butt is not automatically groping, in a crowded place it is common to put your hands on the waistof the person you're talking to or some cultures the lower back.

You still haven't given full details of the encounter 

 

 

Blondie_:

maybe she is 'butt-hurt' at the fact that she lacks credibility 

 

(sorry, couldn't resist the pun)

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Clearly but hurt he didn't finger her in the Christmas market

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viki, "pretty" but still on the shelf, why...... : fucking drama queen/ fantasist!

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That is a very neat trick getting a guy from down under getting to hit you under under. It is called ..mmmm Prestidigitation...: 

 

Here is a good one and this one is on me..: This was a real good Kweschen from a good friend of mine he wanted to know..He worked for AFIS system.. and he asked Who has the most finger prints........The FBI, the CIA, the RCMP..the CSIS.the Interpol,..... The Scotlandyard ...the KGB or The ...ETA.... I said to him I know most of these names but can you tell me who ETA is.. Mmmmm he said Elizabeth Taylor's Asssp...

 

Then you go and work with the FINGERPRINT through the AFIS System and VOILA you get to know where he is from and what his name is ane then report him to IMBRA..  FF. 

Now he is a sitting duck...

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