How much do you think youre worth?

How much do they think youre worth?

I like to have a figure in my head on how much I am worth to a company when they ask for my expected salary some times its not what the company was thinking but if they want you they will negotiate a price or added bonuses to sweeten the deal.

BamBam, if it's a foreign based company, I would ask for the same price range as where you are from including the room and board, driver and so on, but seeing as you are actually being hired directly from China, I'm assuming it's a Chinese company. This will put you in a range of about 20K per month as normal for foreign managers in Shanghai and should include your apartment. That being said, be wary, I've known many people who have come to work as managers for Chinese companies and have in the end, made less than a ESL teacher

Well you have to think about the fact that they can hire a Chinese person for a fraction of the salary so you got to sell yourself with your native speaking English ability and about how much of an asset you would be if brought into the company.

You can always tell them its better if they say first.  Usually if you say this they will give you a number.  Most people I know do this, Chinese and foreign.  If you come across an arsehole who wont tell you the salary then give him a number higher than what you would like. 

This is obviously a position aimed at a foreigner so dont use the stupid mentality of "well they could hire a Chinese person for cheaper". yes they could but they're not so im sorry dharma but thats stupid advice.  What you have to remember is that you wont get the same kind of salary as you would back home.  I wouldnt accept anything less than 10 thousand unless its a job you really want to do, or you have no experience etc.  If you're experienced and the company is pretty big then ask for more.   But in my opinion it usually works to throw the question back at them,  9 times out of 10 they will tell you.

I would research on the internet and see if you can get any salaries offered for the same job so you konw what the going rate is.  The "whats your expected salary" question, i never answer for any job i am going for home or abroad but instead just write i expect the going salary range for my postilion within your company. As then you could negotiate anyway with what ever they offer you.  

Also you haven't  said why you want the job in China if you are coming here to experience the culture and lifestyle then you should expect to get a salary less than your own country and if you are just out for the money then just work in your own country and not come to China.

I hear your answers, and thanks for that.
So, 20k is one suggestion to offer, but also to be aware of not to get screwed over with a totally different amount than agreed upon. I guess that the contract will take care of that?

As it is a chinese based company I wouldn´t expect a local Danish/ German salary, as I then would just have stayed at home, working for a company here.

Another one suggests me to ask the potential employer for an offer, which then can be negotiated with bonuses, apartment or a different amount. As it is a rather small company, as it seems, would I be too greedy asking for a salary between 10-20.000 + bonus?

The internet did not give me some valuable answers on how much a Sales Manager should expect to get in Shanghai. Or maybe I have not found the correct websites yet.

I am coming to China not only for the experience and to get to know the culture and lifestyle, as a vacation could do that. I am seeking a positions which at least let´s me set a foot on the market to enable a permanent stay.

Basically I get out of these replies that I either should ask them to put a number on the table first, or ask for an amount between 10-20.000. Am I right?

yes!  and get a Z visa

That's correct, I'm sure as a sales manager, have you checked their website, any info on what they sell

You could always tell them - "well, back home, I would expect XY salary, based on the local economy - food costs, transport, accommodation, etc...", and then let them come back to you with a figure, and explain how they arrived at it. Then, go from there.

no worry, they love you. how much you earn is not important, if you r not only for survival. most important is, think about it, you r pioneer, adventurer, molder, teacher, and ambassador.  one famous word: don't think what your country can do for you, you think what you can do for your country!

hahahah, maybe it is not jock, by the end you will realize how far you go, how much you gain, this is mirical...

I have written to the potential employer with the suggestions from here and also suggested that they could send me a proposal of what they had in mind, but the reply today has only been: "Your desired salary range is not something we have as a basic salary". They did not come up with a proposal themselves, but I asked for what they had in mind.

No reply yet. I will keep you posted.

it depends on your experience. without experience, it might be a mere 10k only, with a bit of experience i would expect 15k. 20k only with quite a lot of experience.

if they want to rip you off, they give u a basic salary of 6-8k + commission on how much you increase their business.

good luck and let us know once u got an answer and final decision.