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Q: Which provinces of China European nationals except UK,Ireland can not work as an ESL teacher?
Which provinces of china European nationals except UK,Ireland can not work as an ESL teacher due to the reason that some provinces have restrictions.
I recently heard that I can never work in Guangzhou because i don`t have passport of USA,Uk,Australia,South Africa,Ireland,Canada.
Do you know which provinces have these rules?
10 years 15 weeks ago in Visa & Legalities - China
Guangzhou & Shenzhen are the most racist city in China.
What is a Native Speaker? It is a term used by Chinese to differentiate a White person from Non white person.
I am Asian American with US Teaching Credential Licenses from 3 US States & with 10 years teaching experiences with the US School Districts. Still I am also discriminated like you.
I agree with most of you that "One will be frustrated at first but you have to keep on applying." I also ignore the Native Speakers Clause & apply anyway. Who knows.
Like Thomas Edison, he had 6,000 failures before he invented something.
I never gave up. Now it is I who is choosing the school I want to teach at.
icnif77:
I agree with the most of your post, except 'Racist Provinces'.
School in any Province must apply for your WPermit at SAFEA (FEBureau), I think.
If SAFEA won't grant WP to a Non-native FT, School cannot do much about it.
Liaoning and Sichuan were the first two Provinces, which required (since 2009) FT comes from the Native English country.
Somewhere around 2010 or 11, most job openings in China started to carry 'Native English Teacher required' in their adverts.
In 2011, it became the Law, FT must hold Native English country passport (big 5), same as in Japan, Taiwan, S. Korea, .....
I am Non, caucassian English FT, working in China since 2009. My 1st WPermit was issued in Liaoning, then Tianjin, Zhejiang, Xinjiang, and Fujian few weeks ago.
It was rejected in Jiangsu in June 2014. I wasn't sure, if School even applied for new FECertificate (I was extending valid RPermit), so I called Jiangsu SAFEA. Officer told me Non cannot get FEC in Jiangsu, or any other coastal city in East China. His advice was to return to EU.
I was extending my RP since 2011, what I find ridiculous (I told officer), because I wasn't applying for new WP.
Racist? I'm not sure, that term apply to China, as every employer has right to choose the right candidate for the School, like anywhere in the World. No yellow, brown, black, green (Mars), no fat/heavy (cause of tiny classrooms), female only (cause all students are young girls or babies), and so on.
Talking about colours, Chinese often say to me: 'Your eyes are blue', however if I look in the mirror, I see 'green', so figure it out.
Don't restrict yourself like this, by ruling out certain provinces just because you are a non-native English speaker from Europe. I am working in Tianjin with a Mexican, Philapina, Portugease: I am the only 'native english' speaker on campus
The so-called 'rules' are broken by schools themselves.
just keep applying to whatever province you want to work in
Good luck
coineineagh:
Yeah, in this case authorities themselves are frustrated by the rules imposed from above. I'm a native speaker with a British passport, but the school is too new to legally invite a foreigner. So there are bribes in place to safeguard me. Imigration police were undoubtedly tipped off by a local snitch informing the rat line, and came to my school to 'educate' the staff. And they left without arresting me. As long as you keep your nose clean, it's feasible to work without visa for a long time. Just don't get into an argument - locals love to post vids of such things on YouKu, and if you say anything bad about a Chinese person, the vid will reach 100,000 views, police can't turn a blind eye anymore and yer' out!!!
sorrel:
HMMM
i'm not advocating being illegal in China
make sure you are in on a 'Z' - anything else, no matter WHAT they say - DON'T ACCEPT !
icnif77:
I agree with Sorel. Send your Resume everywhere.
If I step into 'Chinese shoes', and 'look for Chinese teacher', only thing which would 'assure me his Chinese is proper' is her/his passport. I can use some 20 Chinese words.
Same I see it at the Chinese requirement 'English teacher must be Native English passport holder'. Chinese can 'judge' your English, only after they see your passport.
louischuahm:
Filipina = Filipino lady/woman
Filipino = used as a general term for a Philippine national but also refers to men
Philippines locals use Pinoy to refer to men and Pinay for women - an informal demonym
If Sorrel was referring to her female colleague then it is correct.
Actually i am not restricting myself however some agents talk like so sure about these regulations. They tell me it is impossible. So is it nonsense information that these agents give to me?
Are there any non native speakers who work as an ESL teacher in Shenzhen or Guangzhou with legal Z visa?
Most the teachers in my town(Sichuan Province) are not from USA,Uk,Australia,South Africa,Ireland or Canada.I am sure that no one follow this rule..or does this rule even exists
In China there is no such thing as impossible. Just keep looking for work. Some cities might be more stringent than others, but there is a place for you. I've known of English teachers in China who don't even know the language that well.
I got the same reply once from a school that said they could not employ me because of my passport. I then found a job two hours away from that city.
Forget about recruiters and search by yourself.
just keep on searching, anything is possible. good luck!
People in China have a habit of telling foreigners that this and this is so and so. They may be very confident and seem well-informed and all that. You may be inclined to believe them. Don't.
sometimes passport is a problem....one of my classmate applied in guangzhou and they said you are not native so we cant give you a job.....he applied in many places in guangzhou and everywhere same reply....so in some places they will not except you ...but keep trying
Why Guangzhou in particular?
Maybe easier to get a position in Dongguan. Not far from GZ, but not a popular place so they always seem to have jobs advertised there.
Get your foot in the door and all that. If GZ is your ultimate goal, then you may have to start down field a bit rather than start in pole position. Higher rates of pay present a bigger gamble for the recruiters. So you need to work up.
Take your time and enjoy the journey 
.
Today marks the full month I've been job hunting. So far, 95% require natives, some with UPPER CASE natives, if you know what I mean. I've gotten 6 interviews on Skype, face to face and over the phone. 2 rejected me outright after seeing me on Skype (oh, you are Asian!!). One hung up after I said I was Asian. One school principal just didn't want an Asian even my credentials are more than what they require. I have 2 hopefuls, one in a training school and one in a university. That's my score so far. The point is.......don't ever give up. Keep trying. You'll get frustrated and all but perseverance is the key. Just keep sending out your CV. You only need one door to open for you, no matter how many doors were slammed in your face. I've sent out about a thousand applications so far (some repeats) just on echinacities alone and got 6 replies which is not bad already. Frankly, I just ignore the "natives required" clause and send it out anyway. You never know.
Guangzhou & Shenzhen are the most racist city in China.
What is a Native Speaker? It is a term used by Chinese to differentiate a White person from Non white person.
I am Asian American with US Teaching Credential Licenses from 3 US States & with 10 years teaching experiences with the US School Districts. Still I am also discriminated like you.
I agree with most of you that "One will be frustrated at first but you have to keep on applying." I also ignore the Native Speakers Clause & apply anyway. Who knows.
Like Thomas Edison, he had 6,000 failures before he invented something.
I never gave up. Now it is I who is choosing the school I want to teach at.
icnif77:
I agree with the most of your post, except 'Racist Provinces'.
School in any Province must apply for your WPermit at SAFEA (FEBureau), I think.
If SAFEA won't grant WP to a Non-native FT, School cannot do much about it.
Liaoning and Sichuan were the first two Provinces, which required (since 2009) FT comes from the Native English country.
Somewhere around 2010 or 11, most job openings in China started to carry 'Native English Teacher required' in their adverts.
In 2011, it became the Law, FT must hold Native English country passport (big 5), same as in Japan, Taiwan, S. Korea, .....
I am Non, caucassian English FT, working in China since 2009. My 1st WPermit was issued in Liaoning, then Tianjin, Zhejiang, Xinjiang, and Fujian few weeks ago.
It was rejected in Jiangsu in June 2014. I wasn't sure, if School even applied for new FECertificate (I was extending valid RPermit), so I called Jiangsu SAFEA. Officer told me Non cannot get FEC in Jiangsu, or any other coastal city in East China. His advice was to return to EU.
I was extending my RP since 2011, what I find ridiculous (I told officer), because I wasn't applying for new WP.
Racist? I'm not sure, that term apply to China, as every employer has right to choose the right candidate for the School, like anywhere in the World. No yellow, brown, black, green (Mars), no fat/heavy (cause of tiny classrooms), female only (cause all students are young girls or babies), and so on.
Talking about colours, Chinese often say to me: 'Your eyes are blue', however if I look in the mirror, I see 'green', so figure it out.
