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Q: Universal healthcare - yea or nay?

I'm sure this has been argued on here before, but what the hell....

 

I'm all for it.

 

I believe it is the government's responsibility to ensure that all citizens have access to low-cost basic healthcare, taken from the taxes we pay. We should have the right to see a GP when needed, and that hospital care is, for the most part, free.

 

I like that our medicines are subsidised by the government, as that helps keep costs down (and hopefully stops pharmaceutical companies from  being even more powerful and richer than they already are).

 

I also think that private health insurance can be used as a way to have health care provided by more luxurious private hospitals, and faster treatment for non-emergency issues.

 

I would add to the above that all medical students (including doctors and nurses) are required to intern in public hospitals for X years, including being sent to remote or regional locations as necessary - this is especially the case where higher education (ie, university) is wholly or partly funded by the state (as in many countries).

 

This responsibility is no less important than other government responsibilities such as ensuring utilities are provided, infrastructure, communications, law and order, and for me - education (in some form*) at least to year 10.

 

Just as the above list benefits the country as a whole, and increases its wealth, so too does healthcare, as sick people are unable to contribute to society.

 

Virtually ALL western developed countries have universal health care, and while there are certainly flaws that need to be addressed (such as waiting times), in general the system words extremely well. The one country that infamously does not have universal health care is the one country that the rest of the world laughs at its political system (and leaders), and is shocked at its military spending... (and, coincidentally, is the one country that has never head a female head of state!)

 

Your thoughts???

2 years 27 weeks ago in  Health & Safety - China

 
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I am all in for the universal healthcare and I think it's a blatant lie of neoliberals when they claim that offering basic healthcare will ruin the economy.How come so many countries in Europe are able to offer quality and often free medical healthcare and avoid the Armageddon? 

 

The only thing is that such arrangements require properly working tax system for the whole society, not simple targeting of the middle class and some sort of social agreement where proprietors not only want to milk the economy, but share something with the rest. And I can't understand it when even post-Soviet European countries can afford the universal and free/reasonably priced healthcare and the US can't.

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yea if you're civilized. nay if you believe in a dog-eat-dog world

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Yea! What he said. Raise the damn taxes so everyone pays 60-70% of their salaries. It's only money after all. Who cares that the medical service will be decreased and that fewer doctors and nurses will get into the medical field. No one should worry about having to go to another country to get better treatment or cheaper meds. And, there is definitely no reason to worry about the valuable research that leads to modern medical care and cures. Amen brother! If Canada, China, Russia, and many EU countries can do it with such precision and professionalism, why can't the USA. (Tongue in Cheek)

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6056715/Doctors-allowed-end-lives-patients-dementia-degenerative-diseases.html

 

Making healthcare affordable for all citizens, have a wonderful day you old dead fart, an interesting statistic, 85 percent of health care costs of an individual in the last two years of life, so how did you cut cost, kill the last two years, problem solved. Brilliant actually, at least someone is thinking with out emotion, now if we get politicians to do this for policies while we are living, the world might improve.

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https://www.afp.com/en/news/2266/swedes-enjoy-world-class-healthcare-when-they-get-it-doc-18l33e1

Supposed to get surgery in 90 days and waiting 270 days. Waiting to die because of a shortage of nurses and doctors who can make more money in another country. Great planning and i lose half my wages in taxes for this great system.

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https://au.news.yahoo.com/parents-watch-baby-die-chicken-pox-misdiagnosis-000303003.html

 

The great NHS, killing another baby. yes government healthcare is wonderful, no blood tests, no observation, a purple leg is a tight diaper, yes parents choke off blood supply with tight diapers everyday, total bullshit, cheap pay, save money, screw the patients, when nobody wants to work for low pay as a doctor, you get the worst doctors, pretty simple actually. When most of your new doctors are Pakistani doctors just let the caucasion infidel crumb cruncher die, good riddance.

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https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/10/war-hero-must-sell-his-house-to-pay-for-care-because-hes-survived-too-long-8125422/

 

Can you feel the love brothers and sisters? give me an "amen", yes let's sing "shall we gather at the river" and "we are the world" don't forget your christmas card to scrooge, I mean the NHS, for Christmas.

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In the best world,,,,,sure.    In reality,,,,,,,no.  

 

(wanna know why imo?  If it gets State-funded it'll be abused/exploited to the max.)

 

((one thing I'll surely give our China brethren,,, not always of course,,, but they have been quite well known for taking the corrupt and lining them up against  the.... brick wall.))

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2019/04/01/britains-version-of-medicare-for-all-is-collapsing/#55dbc84f36b8

 

New plan, make them wait and some will die and save us some money on cost.

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