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Q: Whom 21st century will belong to?
As far as we advance in the 21st century, it seems that two powers are effectively emerging each of them with the capacity of affecting our Western way of living.
China at first. With its growing economic power, military infrastructures and communist ideology, China is a country for which the world is split between fascination and disgust, admiration and envy, trust and defiance, but especially China, and particularly Chinese culture, seems to be shared by millions in Western Countries with no reflection on the relationship existing between the old Chinese culture and the current political situation in China. The more the years passed, the more gains power over Western countries.
Are we going to end up being engulfed by China and have our freedom and way of life kept under the tight grips of the Chinese dragon?
Islam then. Because of the current respect for human rights and the respect for people's religious believes, little by little Islam seems to infiltrate in our customs and way of life making our current democracies in danger. Recently, the Muslim world infuriated again against an American second-zone movie, destroying houses, burning embassies and killing people just because they are not Muslims. Europe is now facing a big turn due to the large migration (legal or illegal) from Middle-eastern countries and the desire by those Muslims to make their religion and its principles more important than any national constitution with the ultimate wish to integrate the Sharia as a fundamental law among other national laws.
So as a Westerner, how do you conceive the future with these two emerging forces in play?
1) Nuke the middle east, burn every living copy of the Koran!!
2) Enroll every Chinese into obedient class for free.
Key to world peace.
mArtiAn:
Yup, sounds fool-proof. A+ (Jeez, I guess i'd better point out i'm being ironic. Badtroll.........you got your head on wrong, son)
lokethebloke:
Well, well well, I always thought that the Koran was a book, shows how ignorant I am. When did it become a living thing?
Createach:
seriously am not against anyone and i love peace..but seriously i am originally from the middle east and i read koran......Respect please
:
QURAN ......do you even know a little about it ,i am sure you don't know even a little about QURAN ,you are jus a piece of shit like others on this earth ,i am Muslim and i am proud of it and i know the reality that people like you are REAL TERRORISTS and send their troops to other countries for blood oil .you don't know any thing about middle east or anywhere you just watch TV all the day along and eat pop corns thats what you do and then you come here and post shit like this on forms
GuilinRaf:
Please, do not blame Islam for the actions of its more fanatical followers. All religions have their fanatics (and I include Atheists too) who give their beliefs a bad rep.
Though I am Catholic, I would not even dream of burning a Quran. Lumping all Muslims as "terrorists" and as "fanatics" does a disservice to those who are not.
Peace to all.
badtroll:
Koran / Quron / Qoron / Krayon, i dont care how its spelled! That little fictional book has cost enough lives in the past 20 years. Oh how I wish Israel would have washed you Arab countries clean if it werent for the USA holding them back.
stan118:
OMG i cant believe some people, show some respect, let me ask you idiots what does the word terrorist mean?
and what does a terrorist look like?
most idiots picture an arab every time they hear the word which has nothing to do with that noun
so everything america does is right or you just chose to ignore all the wrong things they do.
what reason do the americans have for occupying another country??
why do americans have double standards?
why do americans have the right to fly their drones over other countries
as for israel being held back by america thats just bullshit its the arabs that dont want to get involved in the palestine problem because israel is backed by the americans im sure none of them are scared of the jews
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and i wish you would stop saying muslims kill others because they are infidels
and just to point out i dont agree with any of the shit the extremist do
and last but not least you are scum and a racist what do you mean nuke thembadtroll:
LOL we all know the Muslims carry sticks of dynamite under their turbans and rockets under their robes.........sneaky lil snakes.
Nuke them = fly a big ass bomber (preferably a B-52) over the target area and drop a big ass bomb containing high amounts of radiation and destruction. When it hits the ground or near it, stuff blows up. If you are still confused, look up 1945, and what happened to Japan. Hope this clears stuff up for you.
First off I don't have a western way of living, i'm just living. I think that's what most Chinese and most followers of Islam are doing too: just living. If this lot want to do it that way and that lot want to do it this way, then good for them. I've lived here a bunch of years and for all the governmental shortcomings, I don't find things any better or any worse, just different. Ain't never been to 'Muslim', though i've heard it's great this time of year. Did have some Muslim friends in England though, they were lovely people. My guess is, when they don't have missiles flying down their Chimneys, they get on pretty much as anyone else. I don't see a perfect world through door number one, two or three, I don't care which one I live in; just as long as it's not on fire. Will say this though; Donald Rumsfeld, in the PNAC (Project for a New American Century) report stated in 2000, just a year before 9/11, that “The road to change will be a long one, absent some catastrophic, catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor.” Shortly afterwards backdoor diplomacy in Afghanistan to secure a pipeline deal failed when Taliban representatives were offered "A carpet of gold" should they agree "or a carpet of bombs before the next snows fall" should they disagree. Well shortly after that they got their new Pearl Harbor (How about that?) and the glorious march of freedom and 'democracy' began on schedule, before the next snows fell; so maybe it's an 'American' Century we can all look forward to. Goody gum-drops.
lokethebloke:
Are you trying to pick a fight with our cousins? Or am I just being paranoid again? As for Mr Rumsfeld, the poor man broke his arm you know. I hope he's found somewhere safe and warm where he can count his money.
I believe that there's a vacant compound available somewhere in Pakistan, the odd speck of blood lying around but then he will be used to that!mArtiAn:
Hey there Loke. Yeh, I guess you're right, i'm making trouble, must be bored. Just holding that mirror for you while you've been gone. People so quick to demonize the Chinese or the Muslim community, whilst all the while ignoring who's 'really' been making trouble. Ain't just Americans been at it though, we've been marching right along with them remember.
mArtiAn:
Shame indeed. People don't generally know how to face their own shameful acts though, unfortunately. They project them onto others and point dirty fingers. We arrive at humility only after much humiliation; rarely of our own volition. As Peter Cook said (in character) when asked if he'd learnt anything from building three hotels that had all sunk in swampland: "Yes, I have learnt.........I have learnt very well from my mistakes.........and I believe now, I could repeat them 'perfectly'.
The meek shall inherit the earth. And of course the wealthy.
GuilinRaf:
But in the meantime, the Strong will have a GREAT time! 
Oh, and the wealthy too!
I will not live to see the end of the century and to be clear//I don't give a rat's ass who will be who ...............As long as life goes on and no one die
I wasn't aware that Islam is a country. And if you actually did your homework, you'd discover that Pentacostalism is the fastest growing religion in the world. In essence, what you're asking is what political ideology will become most prevalent in the 21st century: Chinese communism or militant Islam. Neither of which are actually going to dominate the policies of other countries or peoples, respectively.
Chinese communism will not be a global ideology as it is a local phenomena, something acute. Nobody else is crazy enough to want to adopt it. And it has been in decline for decades now. Assuming this continues China will quite soon be more akin to a Vietnam than a Maoist wet dream (as we can see it already is today). So, not Chinese communism.
Militant Islam will gain more popular support in certain parts of the pacific, Middle East and Africa so long as the people who wield greatest economic and military power (ie, western countries, China and unrepresentative leaders of these countries themselves) in the regions affected continue to ignore their very real complaints of poor, disadvantaged and exploited people. Islam is not represented in International Law except to say that it is recognised as a legitimate religion to be respected. This despite the followers of the Prophet numbering at over a billion people. Historically, this didn't use to matter as the Christian-Judaic values that underpin western cultures and became enshrined in international law were established prior to Muslim countries being of global significance in world politics. No longer being the case, international law must be amended to include Islamic, as well as Christian-Judaic-based, values.
In effect, what I'm saying is that we are trending toward greater interaction between world civilisations and that this will increasingly be reflected in existing power structures, much as globalisation as meant a massive increase in foreign goods in domestic homes since the end of WWII. Culture is finally catching up with economics and we find the people who were once 'over there' are now very much 'over here' and we haven't quite worked out how to talk to one another yet.
Sangoku:
Read carefully the question and the details of my question, you will see that I am still educated enough to know that Islam is not a country, therefore I used the words "power" or "force", which do not necessarily mean a country.
yian:
You use the term 'Muslim world,' thereby denoting a unifying factor which transcends national sovereignty. By doing so you suggest, intentionally or not, a supra-state based upon shared values. A bloc, if you will, but one lacking the organisational structures and cohesion to make it a political one such as a former USSR or an imagined Federal EU.
If I just thought you were making a 'winds of change' argument I wouldn't have been so pedantic. However, you're asking who the 21st century belongs to and then go on to use the language of statehood. Your question is, then, predicated upon a false premise and I was highlighting that.
yian:
BTW, I think it's a good question and I'm sorry if you read my post to think I was insulting your intelligence.
GuilinRaf:
As to the "Muslim World" dont forget that the Sunni and the Shia dont exactly get along with each other. And both distrust the Sufi.
Do the 'usual suspects' have nothing to say? I would have thought that this question was right up Crimo et.al's alley. Come on you people, tell us what sort of freedom and democracy we can expect to have imposed upon us all in the future.
lokethebloke:
Don't quite understand what you are trying to say but I'm sure you have your peculiar reasons for the extra letters.
I wasn't aware any faith gave a SHIT except about ,destroying another kind of foolish shit ,they all believe in,JESUS,AUDI,MOHAMMED,MONEY
giadrosich:
Thank you, Paul, for your usual rant, and as usual, so eloquently written. Your command of the language is certainly admirable, and I hope one day to be able to express my ideas as forcefully and convincingly as you do above.
1st of all the raid on the embassy in libya was not about the movie it was a planned terriost attack their was no mob their ot was 150 al queda 2nd the march on the embassy in egylpt agiain is not about the movie its about the release of the blind shieke in a new york prison for the 1st bombing of the world trade center
mArtiAn:
Al Qaeda was formed by the CIA. According to Ted Gunderson, 30 year veteran of the FBI, serving his time as head of the Dallas, Memphis and Los Angeles divisions, most or all of the terrorist attacks in America and much of the world, directly naming Oklahoma, the first World Trade Centre attack and Bali in his statement, were/are committed by the CIA. PS: Do you always post when you're drunk or do you type with your eyes closed?
The Victors, who btw, live next door to me. That's why I'm being an extremely nice neighbor.
