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Q: Why do Chinese people hate animals?

 I've been to a couple of zoos here in China. Those are animals' concentration camps. What I saw is appalling!   Besides of eating all the animals, they keep them in zoos in terrible conditions. What underpins this cruelty?

11 years 16 weeks ago in  General  - China

 
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The simple answer is: Money.

 

And it isn't just animals.  Take a deep look at the living conditions of the staff at restaurants or inside of factories.  Some of them make the zoos look humane.

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Not all do. Expat is correct, most people don't live in palaces. Most Chinese don't have the money or knowledge to keep animals In gangnam style. I saw some acts of cruelty. Many Chinese have dogs and cats. Some even keep roosters in their apartment for alarm clocks.

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  Yeh, I had a rooster alarm clock for a couple of weeks when the in-laws visited. Not very sturdy though, I smacked it on 'snooze' one morning and its neck broke.

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You are right Ted it is all down to education. You made me laugh again Martian, just the mental picture of smacking a rooster round the head to shut it up in the morning, hilarious.

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hey , it was my joke.

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The consider animals to be foreigners too.

 

I guess they don't hate animals but you can be sure they they have no compassion for animals either. Animals are not Chinese so.........you know the rest.

 

Oh, wait...the Panda is Chinese so they love the Panda. laugh

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don't you think, with the right size wallet, you could get a fur coat made purely by the fur from panda-babies ears ? 

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...and remember. when you see a nice gentleman walking down the street with a dog next to him, that dog might have been beaten daily to follow its master. When I pass other dog owners and their dog turns around to follow us (as my dog is on a leash it will not do something) I often see them freak out and start yelling and screaming at their dog.

 

The thing is, Chinese raise their children by telling them "if you do this thing wrong, something bad will happen", the concept of positive reinforcement doesn't seem to exist. When you apply the same to dogs, the result is dogs that are beaten to submission, these are the dogs that will end up biting people, fueling a viscous circle. 

 

All the live birds in the supermarkets, why not just kill them on arrival so customers doesn't have to wait to have them prepared. I don't believe any of the housewives really can tell a good one from a bad one.

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I think the live animal thing at the restaurants is for the "freshness" aspect.

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Using"Hate" is a bit overreacted to be honest.
We don't really hate animals,but not a fan of animals,you may say"dislike".

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I would have to agree with Maggiegirly, in that I think "hate" is too strong a word, and one that has the connotation of an active role in treating something badly or having a strong, negative emotional response towards something. And, as XpatJohn said, money does play a role in how an animal is treated.

 

However, with all those factors, I think that ignorance is a key factor. Owning animals as pets is relatively new here in China, and just like most everything else, pet health care must be learned. I've seen lots of people walking dogs around where I live, but I've never personally witnessed mistreatment, except for one time, and I put a stop to that (which involved a leashed cat!). One thing I will not tolerate is animal cruelty, even at the risk of an ass-kicking (mine, lol).

 

I think that lack of education applies to zoo maintenance and management. Are there any schools in China which offer degrees in how to do this? Of course, with the internationalization of most things these days, it doesn't take much effort for a zoologist to see how things are done in top-rated zoos around the world in regards to natural habitat, proper veterinarian procedures for wild animals, diet of the different species, and even the right separation distances for guaranteed safety of animals and humans (witness the snow ball thrown at lion incidence).

 

Where does a zoo budget come from? City? Province? Privately funded? Surely not the national government, but, I don't have a clue, and all of the above measures will mean little if a zoo doesn't get the funds to properly institute these things.

 

So, I don't think Chinese people hate animals. In a country of 1.5 billion people, anything edible qualifies as food, and in the pet sense, education is slow, but it'll get there.

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  It's not only Chinese, i'm British and just look at some of the cruel sports still played in Britain: there's still regular 'badger twatting' matches, where grown men go up against a pit of badgers to see how quickly they can kill them all with a hammer. And what about Mexicans and bashing pinyatas? Those were originally real donkeys. Look it up. It still goes on too. I've witnessed a 'smash the donkey' party for a thirteen year old boy in Guadalupe, and he beat that thing with a baseball bat. In parts of Germany they still 'roll the hog', which is basically a competition to see how far you can roll a live pig after its legs have been broken. From 'squirrel punting' in Thailand to 'chuffing the lizard' (similar to conker fighting but you have to inflate the lizard) in Turkey, there's a veritable world of cruelty out there. 'Tis a harsh, harsh world.

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What did they get out of a real donkey? Funny you mention that cruelty though cause Wiki says they were initially Chinese. Of course I'm pretty sure Wu Mao just go around on wikipedia saying everything is Chinese. And I can't find any record or mention of this "badger twatting" you spewak of, though I know what badger baiting is. I couldn't find this "smash the donkey ceremony either" I think you're full of it. Xiao Lin, is this you? 

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  Darn, i've been fingered (missus), rumbled and rolled. But really, badger baiting is small-fry next to badger twatting, I used to bait badger for beer as a boy. Become quite good at it. The master baiter they called me. As to what they get out of bashing the donkey, I can't really say, but then I prefer spanking the monkey, it's far more civilized.

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Vorrina:

Where can I find some of these you've mentioned?

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  Hahaha, in my twisted, twisted imagination:)

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Cause they eat them?!!!!!enlightened...Including dog and cats and allllllllll the jungle things you can think about?!!!!!!!!

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are you sure? Have never sow it at north of China.

ElenaDob:

I'm quite sure. I've been here for  10 years & saw despicable  cruelty towards animals.

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Who said they hate animals..they can eat any animals..just introduce them..

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It's not that they hate animals, it's that they have a superiority complex (even over other people) and have no respect for animals, other than how they can be prepared into dinner or medicine.

 

Most dog owners in China don't have dogs as companions, but solely for FACE.  "Look at me, I can afford a dog and I have time to walk it instead of being at work 18 hours a day. I'm better than you."

 

The situation with the lions is simple. A strong, powerful creature can be demeaned, teased, and abused simply to make those asshats feel "strong and powerful". It's no different than a bully in a schoolyard. Sadly, people in China are brought up to believe this is an essential part of their culture.

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Pure love http://news.qq.com/a/20130117/001049.htm (and pure sarcasm)

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The Chinese love animals!! Heck they eat most of them!

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