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Q: Native English teachers Visa rule widely being enforced in China. Is that true?

I  had this conversation with a recruiter saying that China government officially required that any province must enforce this rule with an immediate effect of making the pursuit to getting a job in China rather impossible for the NNE. 

However, I was suggested to consider a business visa for an entry and work in Guangzhou, without any risks at all.

According to the recruiter, there are many who got English teaching jobs on Business Visa, claiming that they applied for other joba or reasons that complied with that type of visa, but accessed to a teaching job, afterall.

 

I had to disagree and refuse this path anyways, and insisted that the law, while enforced in some provinces, does not prevent NNE teachers from getting an English teaching job in China. Then I was told that this rule is being enforced starting June, this year. 

 

The recruiter, eventually suggested to record a short video presentation which is required by the prospective employers, hence, schools, etc. and send it asap.  

 

My reaction was that, unlike the odds, it is neither that nor the experience that decide my chances, rather the way I look in order that I succeed through a beauty face selection and be offered a job. I am aware of how that it works in China, so I understand it.

 

However,  what are the chances for a NNE teacher today, to get that job in China?

 

Thank you in advance for your input. 

10 weeks 1 day ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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This is China, what they say and what they actually do are miles apart in every aspects of society.

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Of course it is. Do you think the recruiters and head masters want to get fined? They would never want to jeopardize the high profits they make from having an FT.

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This is China, what they say and what they actually do are miles apart in every aspects of society.

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I  had this conversation with a recruiter saying 

 

 

There's your answer. You should know better, talk to icnif

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If you have travelled around Asia, you will get the pattern that talking is just words without meaning... this is doubly so in China. 

 

Smokes and mirrors... look over here while I do that... 

 

If they were so transparent why the massive VPN ban? 

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You gotta do what you think is right, we all gotta survive some how. So just do it!

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The issue that would get you caught out is that the school will pay tax under the ID you privide (ie: passport number and name). A simple check of the tax records will show what visa you are on the to whom it is attached. Then they can round you up at their leisure and probably with the school's complicity if they can avoid any issue by doing so.

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Do what you have to do, but I would not advise working for anyone who suggests the business visa route.  If you are working illegally and things go bad with the company, you have no one that you can turn to for help. 

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I'll say, I had to exit China by the end of June because I had loads of problems with my employer and I wasn't too silent!

 

Cops gave me only 15-days Humanitarian visa at Contract's completion, had 2 employers from the same city who (as it looked later) just pretend they want to employ me and then I had to 'exit'.

 

Now, I am tired of EU and have interviews twice weekly with new Schools in China and as it looks no changes. My degrees are without authenticity stamp and Non-crim cert. is from 2013.

 

Mill from Urumqi wants to take me in (apply for new Z) despite no stamp BA, but their Contract is a horror story. 

Today, I am having an interview with Public School in Shandong and I told her yesterday about BA .... she: 'Can we have an interview tomorrow?'.

 

It doesn't look to me anybody (recruiters, employers) cares much about 'no stamp BA' or Non-English-nativity.

 

Lack of FT in China is huge, IMO.

 

Best way to find out if NNES still qualify is to hit 'Jobs' tag and send your CV. You'll see how many replies you'll receive.... and if you won't receive enough replies skip notion 'I am NNES' on your CV. 

 

 

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I also see quit a few of these ads on Dave's:

 

"English teachers wanted(NO EXPERIENCE AND DEGREE REQUIREMENT)-10000-15000RMB monthly, Working Visa ..."

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Interesting thread.

 

Reminds me of a poster on GZ stuff.

 

Now, me being a Scotsman, my English is pretty crap, so my wife wants to send our kid  to English class.

 

RobRocks, Icniff, and NZ teach would be my first choices. All on equal footing.

 

But would I pay money to a mill to have an M visa teacher teach her?

 

That's difficult.

 

Teaching ability seems to have little correlation to the work permit system..

 

Difficult question to answer.

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A:I'm prepared to give the guy some slack. He asked a few shifty questions in 2012 then went dormant for 5 years and suddenly appears asking newbie questions. A bit suss but who knows, he could just be a moron. Benefit of the doubt given.

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